The Party Scene Affecting performance??

Wake_Turner · Outlaw Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 244 City: kelowna

We all know it, and the riders are by no means ever trying to hide it? It's quite well known that a lot of the professional wakeboarders party hard while away at contests. It's their choice and if they choose to get wasted saturday nite before sundays rounds thats thier deal, but i find it odd that we use the term "professional" when talking about wakeboarding's top riders. It just seems odd that wakebaording and snowbaording seem to be the only sports where the top guns are more concerned with the party the nite before the contest than the contest itself. Like when was the last time you heard about a professional football player showing up sunday morning to play with a hangover? Or an olypic athelte goin drinking before a gold metal game? If any other athlete in another sport did such things they would have consequences from their team and sponsers to account for the next day, but it seems with wakebaording its free reign and nothing is being done about it. Think about the level of riding that would start to get produced if riders got in shape, kicked the destructive habits and start trying to be an "athlete". Even golfers take the "being an athelte" to heart. Tiger Woods can bench over 300lbs. I dont see too many riders doing that, or golfers for that matter but at least they are starrting to get the idea that being inshape will impove your game. Drinking in itself is not the problem its the drinking in exsessive amounts that is, I really think it would be nice to see a group of riders who treat their "job" like a an athelte should and keep the party'n for home. Just my two cents...

wildbill · Outlaw Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 200 City: austin

Thats why wakeboarding and snowboarding are better my friend.

Our sport is nowhere near as competitive as other sports. We're doing it to have fun, and thats what we consider fun. Pro wakeboarders are not in it to make millions of dollars like football players.
Also, our fan base is different and allows us to do those sorts of things.

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jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

Wake_Turner, I guess if contests meant something to me and my riding I may care, but IMO contests are the worst the sport has to offer. Contests hinder progression, contests are stagnant and dull with announcers that make me want to put a gun in my mouth.

The real progression from this sport comes from freeriding.

B_Fool · Soul Rider Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 373 City: Cen FLA

If Tiger Woods can bench over 300lbs, I will service his black ass in front of my dad.
There is no way.

Atrain · Criminal Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 56 City: muskego

Look at the life a rockstar lives. Thats how i take wakeboarding. just my opinion live it up man. Laughing

joe navy · Criminal Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 90 City: Camden, N.C.

I haven't attended a contest with any big name riders as of yet but the comps I have been to were all awesome atmospheres because everyone did what they wanted. I think these guys who work hard during the normal week teaching and what not should let as loose as they want on the weekends contest or not..
Like the headless chicken said, most of this is rumors being blown up anyway..
Work hard Play harder!!!

nickdakoolkat · Posted: Nov 09, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject:

B_Fool, you better get down on your knees and get ready to insert his fallace into your mouth then.

Tyler T · Posted: Nov 09, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject:

nickdakoolkat, do you mean phallus?

midwesty · Posted: Nov 09, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject:

any sport that you can be around hot women in bikinis...drinking a cold beer if that is your choice...and hang with friends is cool with me...that is what wakeboarding is, meeting new people, enjoying times and just getting thru life with a few pleasures Cool

almost like bowling Rolling Eyes

j/k

Wake_Turner · Outlaw Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 244 City: kelowna

As for contests not mattering to anyone...

if we didnt have contests the sport would not be anywhere near as big as it is now, sports need publicity and thats what contests give us, they also give us some bearing on the who's who of wakeboarding. If contests didnt matter and the athletes werent concerned with any of the prize money and winning commisions from sponsers then im positive they wouldnt attend them.

Being Professionals...

If you asked any pro wakebaorder what they do for a career they wouldn't respond oh i dont do anything i just happen to pull in six figures a year having fun with this wakebaording gig on my spare time. They would tell you they are a professional wakeboarder. Regardless if they make millions or 50,000 a year a pro athlete is a pro athlete and in my opinon they should carry themselves in a manner relative to their title while in the public eye. They can go get wasted every nite of the week if they want. Someone mentioned that the crowd that our sport appeals to, allows for such lieniencies to drink cuz its a laid back crowd. Well I'm guessing the large majority of the crowds that follows the riders' every move are under 20. That being said, I dont give a rip who disaggrees with me but young kids esspecially age 12-16 shouldnt be exposed to that. Kids are gonna drink if they are gonna drink but I dont belive they need the added exposure.

NOMA · Newbie Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 17 City: Santa Rosa

Tiger can bench 300lbs so B Fool , better get on your knees

Josh R · Posted: Nov 10, 2005 1:02 am Post subject:

Yuk, yuk, yukkk... Some of this talk makes me sick.

I'll tell you 'the who's who of wakeboarding' (that line makes me laugh and cry at the same time) isn't necessarily up the up of the podium every week, at least not for me.

JV · Posted: Nov 10, 2005 1:36 am Post subject:

are you kidding me, you honestly doubt tiger woods can bench 300 lbs., b_fool? have you seen the guy? he's a mini-linebacker. besides, 300 lbs. isn't really all that much. not trying to brag or anything, but back when i was lifting weekly for high school football, i could rep 285 three times (i'd pobably struggle with just the bar if i tried now). it's really all about dedication, and you'll be lifting 5 lbs. more practically every time you're in the weight room. and of all people, tiger has plenty of dedication

djiali · Outlaw Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 176 City: Alexandria

the term "professional" only refers to someone who can make a living at the sport...doesn't define a state of mind. If you're a partier going into wakeboarding, chances are good your still going to be partying when you make it to the competition level.

jryoung, yeah, maybe the contests are stale, but it certainly grows the appreciation from the non-wakeboarder view, plus gives the honeys a chance to show off their stuff in their sexy bikinis, and brings a ton of money back into the sport. Not to mention the pro riders who take their money and dump it back into the sport with wakeboard schools, clinics, etc.

venezuelanborder · Newbie Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 35

i guessing its the scene of the sports. i know a bunch of soccer players down here who like to drink because they get pee tested at school. and the surfers i know get high because they dont do sports proffesionaly or at school and live on their own so no trouble their. do they pee test professional wakeboarders and snowboarders for cocaine , crispy and all that stuff?

Melanie G · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 230 City: Orlando

That's why Phil is giving those guys a run for their money, he's not old enough to drink yet.

To answer your question venezuelanborder, no, they don't test wakeboarders for anything. I don't know about snowboarding though.

wkbrdr · Posted: Nov 10, 2005 8:02 am Post subject:

is there rutien, they drink every night and then practice the next day, so this way its the same every day, how do you know they even have a hang over, you can party to a certain extent...yes parks is getting bigger, and they all porbab ly never go to a gym in there life, but i think you will see a large change of younger riders coming in and smoking everyone....

RufioSwashbuckle · Posted: Nov 10, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:

If people want to drink and party hard all night and not progress, thats fine with me. I'm not a crazy ass drinker and I consider myself to be pretty healthy, I guess it just gives me the upper hand. I let the other guys deal with their own business.

wildbill · Outlaw Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 200 City: austin

Wake_Turner, I would call your opinion the exception.

How many of you are between 15 and 21 and drink? I do, but not because my favorite wakeboarder does. I started drinking before I even knew what wakeboarding was. I don't think thats a valid argument.
The sponsors don't care if they do those sorts of things because the fans don't care. That's all it comes down to.

DLS · Outlaw Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 128 City: Modesto

I just figured it out, my binge drinking is why I'm a sh!ty boarder.

I guess I can live with that Smile

Maybe the pros might ride a bit better if they weren't hungover but I don't
really pay that much attention anway so oh well, that's the sport.

wakeskate77 · Outlaw Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 137 City: Atlanta

This is retarted, drinking is part of the sport, its why alot of us started wakeboarding.
Ok lets go back to before you ever wakeboarded. How many of you decided to try wakeboarding cause you saw it on ESPN at 2am? (verry few i would imagine)
Now, how many of you were out on the lake drinking and said "hey i wanna try that" that was me
The other reason we do this sport is cause we dont want the pressure and the seriousness other sports have, we want to have FUN.
WE cant get to serious cause then it gets lame, just look at darin shapiro
slayden

BR_WB · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2850

You honestly think Tiger Woods benches 300 lbs? That would be incredibly risky for one of the top golfers in the world to do on a regular basis. One bad rep and his rotator cup, shoulder, etc. can be torn, and he would have sit out a while.

Swass · Guest

Isn't it a "rotator cuff"? Regardless, I'm skeptical that he can bench 3 bills. I'm not as skeptical as B Fool is, though! Shocked

BR_WB · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2850

Swass,

Rotator "cuff." There. Laughing

Foote · Outlaw Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 190 City: Richmond

Always helps me taking about 5 jagerbombs before my sessions to get loosened up!

DLS · Outlaw Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 128 City: Modesto

Broccoli B · Posted: Nov 10, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject:

http://www.golf-trainer.com/public/542.cfm

That doesn't mean he can't, but that he probable doesn't

buckshot · Outlaw Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 213 City: Charlotte, NC

wildbill · Outlaw Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 200 City: austin

Saying that wakeboarders would wakeboard better if they didnt party is kind of like saying ultimate frisbee players would do better if they hadn't stayed up all night doing homework.

hoosairboy · Newbie Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

That is becoming old school. The guys coming up and most of the guys on tour take it a lot more serously than you think. Adkins doesn't party on tour. Soven not. Rusty works out as hard as any professional athlete. While some of the old school guys might like to light it up the night before that is becoming less and less. Lidburgh doesn't party before hand. Josh has quit partying and works out very hard. This is becoming the norm and what it takes to be on top. How well did the partiers do this year?

Hyperlite has told the riders no more nonsense. When they are on tour they are at work. Act like "professionals".

Those who complain about comps are usually those who can't compete. If you don't like it don't watch. But your dreamin if you think you can come close to these guys, even the Jr men would spank you.

jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

jon4pres · Addict Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 589 City: Fort Scott

hoosairboy, That is what I was thinking. As the sport evolves it just gets more and more competitive. There will always be exceptions but most people are going to have to work hard be in shape and not hung over to compete with the best. I am sure they have their share of fun but alchohol and drugs are not neccesary to compete.

jason2454 · Outlaw Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 240 City: austin

i forget who it was but i remember a MLB pitcher saying he was hung over like a mofo during some shut out he pitched in the playoffs.

bizzuck · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593

im surprised nobody went to google.... so i did.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HFI/is_8_55/ai_n13467309

http://www.users.muohio.edu/shermalw/honors_2001_fall/honors_papers_2001/Koplin_TWoods.htm

neither of these articles have proof that tiger can bench press 300, they give some evidence, all of you idiots who say he cant have not been in a gym for any extended period of time. 300 is not a lot of weight for a man who spends a bunch of time in the gym and makes his living hitting a golf ball (in case you were wondering- hitting it far is a good thing sometimes, and for those of you who cant make the logical next step- being stronger helps...)

for the idiot who said that lifting that much is a way to get hurt, you are wrong as well. if you take your time (slowly build your way to 300) and workout with a trainer, which tiger does, who wont let you damage your body there really isnt that much of a threat to hurt yourself. how many professional football players to you hear about being hurt from bench pressing.

now back to the pros partying... events are a social event. they push themselves when they are at home, and if you watched any of the pwt this year you wouldnt think the guys were suffering from hangovers.