Heelside Front Roll

LLporter · Newbie Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 35 City: little elm

How do you do a heelside front roll? What is the diffrence between the heelside front roll and a backroll? Please go into detail>THANKS!!!LP Very Happy

intotheflats · Posted: Aug 16, 2005 11:47 am Post subject:

there is no such trick as a heelside front roll. There is a mexiroll which is actually the wrong way to do a backroll, but it looks kind of like a front roll.

AndyAndy · Addict Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 660 City: cutchogue

he means front flip...hit up the trick tips section

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

jflo452, I doubt he means front flip. He probably means mexican backroll.

A mexican backroll (mexiroll) is a backroll executed by throwing your head down to initiate the spin which makes more of a flip motion than a cartwheel motion of a regular backroll. It is also the technique used for a backroll to blind.

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

nah there's a hs frontroll and a front flip.

to do a hs front roll cut into the wake with a progressive edge and put about 60% of your weight onto your front foot. wait until you get the pop from the wake and until you are in the air to initiate the flip. it is important to keep your arms locked into a triangle shape (b/w your lead hand, elbow, and lead shoulder) while doing this trick...u need to do this to keep the line tension to pull you through the trick and help you stick the landing. once you are in the air all you have to do is put your ear to your lead shoulder and keep the handle in a constant position to pull you through the flip. let me know how it goes. good luck!

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

pbfoot, your an fkin idiot. You just described a hs front flip. Find me a trick list or a trick tip section of any wakeboarding website (not from the forum section) that has a hs front roll on it. It doesn't exist.

holdsworth · Posted: Aug 22, 2005 5:46 am Post subject:

Wakebrad, you are a fkin idiot. Wink

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

ohio_wake_2008, there's a difference between a typo and being a flat out wrong fkin idiot

wtf does this mean?:

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

thanks for being an a hole, people like you are really awesome.

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

yeah ohio_wake_2008, quit being an a hole

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 22, 2005 11:13 am Post subject:

Not sure what the hell you guys are talking about as no one has any passion for the sport anymore and wants to call things by the right name. You guys get into these little hissy fits cuz people don't care enough about the sport to learn the correct terminology or accept the fact that what they think they know is not right.

Technically their is NO such thing as a HS front roll, you can butcher a trick description all you want and call a Mexi XYZtothafoshizzle but for what it's worth it would still be a HS backroll.

You came to the site to learn and gain knowledge about the sport, shut your pie hole and learn something.

TECHNICALLY THEIR IS NO SUCH THING AS A HS FRONT ROLL!!!!!!

DunDunDun · Posted: Aug 22, 2005 11:27 am Post subject:

http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=16343

Dillard · Criminal Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 74 City: Evansville

the "hs front roll" as you call it is still a backroll......why? it is because your back edge of the board is still leading the rotation, a true hs frontroll, wher the toeside edge would be leading the rotaion is impossible, its all physics

mcmarbles · Newbie Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 44

I know you should keep the "triangle" solid through the whole trick but off the top of the wake, shouldn't you bring up your lead knee as you are throwing your ear down to your shoulder??

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

LFADAM · Posted: Aug 22, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject:

I honestly dont think that a HS frontroll is impossible. If you can do TS backrolls, why not HS frontrolls? I just think it would be insanely hard. You would have to accelerate off the wake and go straight up, then initiate the front roll like a front flip off a dock (let go with back hand) That may be near impossible, to initate a flip once you are well in the air so maybe youd lean over your toes as you pop and kinda throw it.

We can argue about it all day but I think its definetly possible, its just really hard. Kinda like the 1080, it can be done, its just hard. If all the pros went after it like they did with the 1080 Im sure someone would get it.

DunDunDun · Posted: Aug 22, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject:

http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=16343

well thats like a HS frontroll, i was cutitng HS, and i did a front roll. kinda:P

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

DunDunDun, the video you posted is a mexican backroll. Not a frontroll. Currently there is no such thing as a heelside frontroll in wakeboarding.

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

It looks more like an attempted raley gone bad.

LFADAM · Posted: Aug 23, 2005 4:10 am Post subject:

DunDunDun, nice! Thats the closest ive ever seen to a HS frontroll. If you had let go with your back hand I think it would have looked even more legit.

Most Mexi rolls are tilted off axis, that was straight front roll. Still mexi roll just because of his orientation to the boat but still pretty cool.

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

LFADAM, any trick with a rotation like that is technically a backroll. My friend throws his backrolls with the same rotation as that. You can never do a true frontroll because the rope would wrap around the rider or the board. It will always be an off axis mexican backroll with that rotation.

jpminter · Posted: Aug 28, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject:

Wakebrad is right. There is no hs front roll.

DunDunDun · Posted: Aug 28, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject:

i rotate forward in that vid

jpminter · Posted: Aug 29, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject:

DunDunDun, no, you just rotate toward the boat. You wouldn't rotate straight backward away from the boat on a backroll would you? No, you wouldn't. What you're doing in that video is a backroll.