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PostPosted: Aug 07, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: only been a few times and want to jump better Reply with quote

k well i have been like 5 or 6 times and have the balance and everyhting down pretty good beacuse i snowboard, but i am behind a 17.5 sea ray out board so we have to have a pulley thing and it is actuly under the water but wear the rope hooks to it is jsut on top, and i have a piece of sh*t board that has no traction or w/e and i can cut out away from the wake really good and make a big spray but then when i turn back to hit the waek there gets slack in the rope and i lose most my speed so the most air i have got is like 2 ft !!! any tips on what im doing wrong and im even pullin the rope to my hip before i hit the top so any tips???
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PostPosted: Aug 08, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could it be that you are cutting out to much, making slack in the rope?
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PostPosted: Aug 08, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i just relized that, thanks but my other question is how long is a good rope length?? thanks for the help on the not cuttin out so hard tho Goobster. and any other sugjestions would help tons
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PostPosted: Aug 08, 2005 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What goodster said is not really correct...I would try using a progressive edge...Cut outside the wake and wait for the boat to start pulling you back towards the wake...Then gradually lean harder as you move closer towards the wake...This should keep the rope taunt (sp?)...Bend your knees and keep the handle close to your waist...I would also suggest tying (sp?) your rope to the "i" hook on the back of the boat instead of in the water which will help you get more air. Having your rope so far down will just keep pulling you downwards as well...I hope this helps...Post results
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PostPosted: Aug 08, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i have a out board so now i hook it sucks but yeah thanks i will try the progressive edge a lil more
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PostPosted: Aug 08, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umm im lookin into a pylon thing but the bottom middle section of my boat lifts up to put skis and ect. under so i dont know if it could just screw into that or what aaaa im son confused need help fast thanks
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PostPosted: Aug 08, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You dont need a pylon, it will be a while before you start to feel the pull down. I'm getting a solid 5-6 ft of air and I cant feel it.
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PostPosted: Aug 08, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

were do u hook the rope tho do u have a i hook or w/e cuz the pulley things hooks on both sides the moter under the water adn so then the rope is like water level but i know i dont need one i know its just my form and mabey a bit of the 100$ for the package board kickiin in lol but thanks for the tips.
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PostPosted: Aug 09, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the answer to your question. Throw your rope out in to the water and get your boat up to speed. Due to the fact that you are running an outboard you can't run a 75 foot line without going like 25 mph. So your up to speed and you got the line behind the boat with no one on it (smooth water) keeping the boat at what ever speed you ride at pull the line in until the handle is about 3 feet befor the white wash starts. I would bet your going to be at 50- 60 feet, you wat the fat nice part of the wake and tie off the rope there. Try to ride on that length. I think you will find it will solve most of your issues.
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PostPosted: Aug 09, 2005 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snooks wrote:
What goodster said is not really correct...I would try using a progressive edge...Cut outside the wake and wait for the boat to start pulling you back towards the wake...Then gradually lean harder as you move closer towards the wake...This should keep the rope taunt (sp?)...Bend your knees and keep the handle close to your waist...I would also suggest tying (sp?) your rope to the "i" hook on the back of the boat instead of in the water which will help you get more air. Having your rope so far down will just keep pulling you downwards as well...I hope this helps...Post results


Outboards don't have the i hook, do they? At least the ones I've been behind didn't. They have a rope tied from the left of the boat, out and around the motor to the right of the boat. there's apulley on that rope, you tie the line to that pulley. if you didn't have that, the rope would hook on the outboard every time you cut across the wake. It should keep the rope taught the whole way.

Sounds like it's the progressive edge suggestion that's gonna help. I've only recently learned about progressive edge jumping, and have yet to try it. but logically it sounds right. describing it as a pendulum was the best way i understood it. takea look at the picture. If you're on the outside of the wake and cut hard, you'll follow the blue line... BAD! But look at how the 'boards' are layed out. As you slow down on teh outside, let the boat start to bring you back in. then "progressively" turn the board more as you get closer to the wake.

Everyone else, please correct me if I'm wrong!
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PostPosted: Aug 09, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After I stoped and looked at it a bit you are correct but a bit misleading where the arrow and then the wakeboards on the back. It might of helped if you labeled it with steps and progression
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PostPosted: Aug 09, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are pretty much correct nan0...when i posted my reply i did not know he rode behind an outboard...they dont have the "i" hooks and do in fact have the pulley system...This simply will not work in the future for him...The rope will always be pulling him down...he NEEDS a pole...or other suggestion....when i had my outboard all i did was simply hooked the pulley system onto the hooks that are on top of the boat but still at the back...that worked
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PostPosted: Aug 09, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my pulley system isnt long enough to hook to the hooks on the back on the top u know like the metal things on both sides and the only other one they had was just a rope and it was lready frighd or how ever u spell it so we got this one thats a cable but yeah i probly will jsut buy a bigger one so i can hook it to the upper part
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