jumping question

Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

i have been wakeboarding for quite a while and can get some good air.....but i dont have a tower......can u guys gimme some hints on wat technique works the best for jumping the wake? (also i have an i/o regal 2100)

AirProfile · Addict Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 602 City: Brookfield

cutting hards legs stright
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Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

i no a lot of ppl r lookin at my question but i only see one answer that doesnt help much. so plz help me.

madtekniques · Outlaw Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 156 City: Toronto

Are you saying that you can get some good air but you can't W2W? and you want some pointers on jumping W2W?

If so, I would say the two biggest things are;
1-make sure you have your rope at a length where you can go W2W
2-make sure your speed is right so that you can get a good progressive edge

I ride behind a 20' I/O at 21-22 mph with a 60-65" rope (including handle).

Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

ya w2w......i ride at 75' at about the same speed u do...i will try the rope length.....but should i physically jump or get a progressive edge and then straighten my legs.......and should i bring my knees to my chest(in air)?

Kampus-slide · Addict Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 527 City: Tucson

if you suck your knees to your chest it will only give the apperance of big air

madtekniques · Outlaw Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 156 City: Toronto

Progressive edge, stay crouched, stand up off the top of the wake Smile

There really is no jumping action at all you ride the wake and streighten (pop) off the top.

Now, to expand on my last post, i ride 60-65 with no tower or pylon it's from the sky eye on the back of the boat. If you are the same, in terms of the ski eye, then 75' is way to long I have never been behind an i/o that puts out a clean wake and not to wide for w2w.

Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

ya i ride from the ski eye... im gonna get a monster some time soon....and ill try wat u suggested...thanks

lake erie waker · Newbie Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 47 City: eastlake

i'm still tring to land a little air like 2-4 ft off my outboard. i don't skateboard and i don't snowboard so how should i land on my board to stick the tiny air that i can get?

Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

even i no this one. as soon as u hit the water bend ur nees to absorb the landing and to make it soft and smoot.

lake erie waker · Newbie Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 47 City: eastlake

yea but should i land on the tail of the board or edge side?

Blake · Posted: Jul 28, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject:

w4k3b04rd3r57 · Outlaw Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 131 City: Boca

your line sounds a little long if you are trying to learn W2W try shortening it to maybe 65 to 70? hope it helps and make sure u pop off the lip of the wake and keep the handle close to your body

Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

aight thanks

AirProfile · Addict Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 602 City: Brookfield

Blake, why do i fvcking suck? i gave him the advise that is right your technique might work but admit that he's probably not cutting out hard and back in hard and legs are bent
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Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

actually i cut hard. i understand the progressive edge Smile

i just dont understand the jumpin off the lip. Sad

Blake · Posted: Jul 29, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject:

ballywho · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 1725

I think someones on their period Laughing

. Blake calm down, you have to realize that most newbs on here asking these kinds of questions haven't reserched. If he has he's got 1 up on the other but most havent. I'm not taking sides here but Blake STFU, remember if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all. Laughing

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Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

oooooooookkkkkkkk well........ nyway i went out the last three weekends and tried all the things u guys said but i only got w2w two times. i like the technique its just that i dont feel like i am gettin as high as i use to. is this normal when u start out? and will the technique be more effective when i have a tower cause my bro does it the way i used to ( cuttin in and physically jumpin and bringin his knees to his chest) and his jumps look alot better than mine.

ckligor · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Posts: 454 City: A-town

Snoop108, Do you have removable fins?
If so take them out, ride finless. This will make sure that you have the correct form off the wak because it will force you to use the edge of the board. Yes your board is going to be very loose, but if you can go wake to wake I'm sure you can handle it. Using the edge of the board through the wake is key, then load the back of your board a bit more until you get the desired pop

Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

ya i do and ill try it. but wat do i do when i hit the lip of the wake exactly?

ckligor · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Posts: 454 City: A-town

Well you need to use that progressive edge you know how to do and then stand tall right as your leaving the wake, keep the handle close to your waist. The angle of the board cutting through the wake. don't flatten the board out and ride up the wake, but like I said if you take the fins out that won't be a problem anymore because you'll fall. ro yor board will come up on the front very high and you won't like the way it feels to much. see if this helps at all

Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

ya that helps thanks man.

nan0 · Criminal Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 55 City: San Jose

Snoop-

I'm riding behind a no-tower boat as well, until recently had extreme difficulty clearing the wake. And like you point out, I feel I have to sacrafice height to get the distance. Something I never really thought about - if I stand up a little right when i get to the transition of the wake, I get some decent air but won't clear the wake. I'll have to pay attention to how I release from the wake... what CKLIGOR says about keeping that progressive edge up off the wake makes some sense. I'd think straightening out a little as you hit the transition would give you pop, but holding that edge could definately give you the distance. Find a happy medium between the two and maybe get pop and distance?

More so, just keep trying!

Snoop108 · Criminal Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 59 City: iola

ya i understand. never thought of it that way.

ckligor · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Posts: 454 City: A-town

nan0, If you look at the picture on the top right and see the arrowing showing flight path and put less of a slope on it, your going to go out more and not as high. if you want both hit the wake harder

nan0 · Criminal Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 55 City: San Jose

QNev · Posted: Aug 13, 2005 11:10 am Post subject:

A hard edge can flatten out your jumping... Just use a nice progressive edge and hit the wake with almost straight legs Wink

fuk_all_this@hotmail.com · Criminal Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Posts: 56

u should get a tower it makes every thing easyer !! soz i had to say that ^^

steve2434 · Newbie Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 20 City: Dallas

do ballast bags help you clear the wake also? i was thinking about getting some for my Regal boat with no tower to help the wake, would this help the wake get bigger?

overdue · Newbie Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 4

I don't think geting ballast bags would be a good idea without first having a tower. Here's why:

1) When you jump, the low tow rope pulls you back down toward the water, making it harder to clear the wake.
2) Ballast bags make the boat heavier, and put the hull of your boat even farther down in the water.

As such, when you go to jump with no tower and a lower hull position you've increased the angle that is going to be pulling against you and you'll actually get dragged down towards the wake more quickly and more abruplty giving you even LESS hang time.

I dunno I'm just a newb myself but it makes sense, right?

steve2434 · Newbie Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 20 City: Dallas

ya that does make sense but most people ive talked to say that if you cant do a trick without a tower you can't do one with a tower either but i really woulndt know either

Ethan31 · Posted: Aug 18, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: