slowing down

als132 · Soul Rider Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 462 City: shoreline

when your trying a new trick, do you usually slow the boat down a bit?

i was riding with a few pros a couple weeks ago who said that slowing the boat down when trying new things was a bad habit to get into, but i was just wondering how many people here do that....? ill admit that i definatly do that

J_DOGG · Posted: Jul 27, 2005 7:44 am Post subject:

als132, THEY ARE RIGHT!!!!!

It can work to a certain extent but I have found keeping everything consistent to be a much better approach.

What I mean is you can shorten the rope an extension to make it easier to clear the other wake but now you automatically change the way you ride and approach the wake cuz you are a lot closer had have less setup time.

Moving the rope in makes everything happen faster by default, you are closer to the boat.
Slowing your speed down does a few things. It changes the shape of the wake on most boats and changes your approach angle and release off the wake.

One bit of advice I try to give people that have a hard time with consistency, ride at the slowest speed you can possibly ride with the boat and equipment you have. I laugh at the cat that is having a shitty run and keeps asking for more speed, you need technique not more speed and should actually be going the other way to find it again.
I usually place my hand on the PP to make it appear I'm bumping the speed up but I never do, then they get in the boat and say. "That was much better, the boat was going real slow before." really you were riding at the same speed the whole time meatball.

als132 · Soul Rider Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 462 City: shoreline

well i dont have a problem with consistancy. everything i can do, im very consistant with. its annoying to see people that cant jump the wake smoothly, but then you see them go a throw a huge frontflip and almost stomp it. its just when im tryin new inverts/spins, i like to slow the boat down a bit the first few times, then gradually build back up to my normal speed. i was just wondering if anybody does that

w4k3b04rd3r57 · Outlaw Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 131 City: Boca

yeah the pain is not as bad lol i do the same thing when i just learn a new trick

Chief Hawkeye · Newbie Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 7 City: Grand Rapids

What speed are you going when you slow dowm for the new tricks?

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

Maybe it depends on the trick. I'm then process of trying to get my bs180s down and I was struggling with the ollie bs 180 so I slowed the boat down 4mph and practiced them, then once I got the feeling sped it back up and and I haven't missed one since. I don't see a problem with it as long as you learn to land it at your normal speed also.

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

Wakebrad, you mean 14 right?

no slowing down here.

w4k3b04rd3r57 · Outlaw Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 131 City: Boca

no i think he means he slowed it down 4 mph not at 4mph

als132 · Soul Rider Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 462 City: shoreline

i normally wakeboard @ 20 mph, and ill slow the boat down to liek 19 or 18.7

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

I'd agree with Wakebrad in that it may help with some tricks like bs 180s. If I slow my boat down though the wake gets all soft and it's obviously harder to learn new tricks such as inverts in this case because you lose a lot of your pop off the wake.

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

ontrider, definitely on inverts you need to go normal speed. Having a soft, washy wake is not easy to start the rotation on an invert.

w4k3b04rd3r57, has it. I normally ride at 22 so when I was trying ollie bs180s I slowed down to 18mph (which is slow for a 200# guy on a 136)

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

Well my speedo said 23 before it broke! Evil or Very Mad

Yeah, if I drop it to around 20 the wake gets crappy and soft... the joys of I/O's eh!?

holdsworth · Posted: Jul 28, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject:

i did it only for spins, like a switch hs fs 360 and my bs 180's

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 02, 2005 4:00 am Post subject:

I guess I should rephrase my statement. If you are learning tricks off the wake it would be best to keep the shape as consistent as possible.

I guess if you are doing stuff in the flats, speed wouldn't really matter at all as long as the rider is not sinking.

alwaysonfire · Newbie Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 24 City: Prince George

i was just wondering what a I/O is?

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

alwaysonfire, you'll see that term a lot. It means inboard/outboard.

inboard:

inboard/outboard (i/o)