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LANDED MY FIRST BACKROLL!!!

 
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: LANDED MY FIRST BACKROLL!!! Reply with quote

I landed my first backroll this weekend i was soo pumped. I learned them by cutting ts at the wake and letting go of the rope just before popping so i could just worry about rotation and not the rope, and i landed one! My question to you people is what will be the biggest struggle in landing a backroll WITH the rope?
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats man! It sounds like you are doing a ts backroll. Concentrate on riding all the way up the lake with two hands on the handle. Keep two hands on the handle up until the last 1/4 of the roll so you don't underrotate. Spot your landing and ride away. Oh yea RIDE ALL THE WAY UP THE WAKE or you will take a ts digger which is NO FUN.
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ts backroll is correct and both hands on the handle you say.. that might be what i was missing i was definatley trying it with just the lead hand. Im very used to doing backflips on land which is why i think the no rope backroll was easy for me, i think the rope will be a struggle. any more advice would be welcome.
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hoping to be in the same boat as you next weekend, I just started working on backrolls (heelside) this weekend and i am soooooo close to landing it, i get my board flat on the water i just can't ride away. So hopefully next time I ride I'll start sticking them!!!!!! Its actually been all I think about lately, during summer school while my professor is blabbing about logarithims all i can think about is sticking a damn backroll!!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

figure it out because i can do the same but i just cant keep the rope tight to my body
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PostPosted: Jul 27, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you edge progressively for a backroll? i cannot seem to keep the line tight all the way round that's why it feels like im going to slow in the rotation. I also land on my butt a lot... any one have theories that will help me? I get the rotation until 3/4 where i end up hitting my back or my butt on the water!
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PostPosted: Jul 27, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to have a progressive cut... And if you think the rotation is too slow, hold the handle closer to the middle of your body (IE/ the hips) So that your turning circle is smaller...
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PostPosted: Jul 28, 2005 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lots of common mistakes that people make when attemping a back roll (me included)

- throwing it too early - pause that extra little bit before the rotation.
- letting the handle come away from your body. keep the handle in after your progessive edge.

easy peasy japaneasy you have a back roll. Cool

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PostPosted: Jul 28, 2005 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been where you are for a while now. and I even held on to the rope a few times. but i pulled a muscle in my arm on a hard fall and i havnt been able to try it for a few weeks
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PostPosted: Jul 28, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you lock your elbows near your hips to help you keep the handle in close? i think this is where im going all wrong.....since I don't think i am able to keep the handle close to me the whole time
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PostPosted: Jul 29, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dunno, the approach of thinking "screw it, im just going to try it and see what happens" worked wonders for the no rope backroll so i plan on the same for the rope backroll.
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PostPosted: Jul 29, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"no rope backroll" and "rope backroll"..guess you just gave a new name for a trick Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Jul 30, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

backroll, im working on it to, toulk me forever to find out a back role is nothing to do with a "backflip" which is why i could never throw one. heres what ive been doing and it works for me,
>cut in on a good edge, not quite a raily cut, but pretty close
>hit the wake and pretty much launch strait up off it and throw your head forward letting your board travel behind you.
>try your best to spot your landing, and stick it

now thats worked everytime for me, i just cant quite stick it,
any advice on the 360 handle pass

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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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throw your head forward letting your board travel behind you.

isn't that a frontflip?, a backroll you throw your head back.

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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its a hs backroll you throw your head onto your rear shoulder
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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know its a what the f***, but a hs back role, is a front flip. but a ts backrole is backflip. But if your trying to do a "backflip" going hs, let go with you right hand throwing it back, BAM!!!! you got a tantrum

http://wakeworld.com/TrickList/TrickTip004a.asp <----- hs backrole

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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a heelside backroll is the exact opposite of a frontflip. on a h/s backroll throw your head to ure back ankle
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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2005 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude, i know what im talking bout, a heelside backrole, looks nothing like a backflip. if you check the link i bosted above, youl see a heelside backrole looks like a front flip. your boardgoes up the wake behing you, and ur head goes down toward ur back foot, check any instructional vid. ull see it. peace out
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PostPosted: Aug 01, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

INKboarder, what your describing is a mexican backroll. those dont look pretty. what they are talking about are the real backrolls... those look alot better Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Aug 01, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, thats my closes description on how to do one. a real backrole is more over the back shoulder i guess.
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PostPosted: Aug 01, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i heard that if you're trying to land a backroll, you shouldn't let go of the rope because you need it to pull yourself through the rotation. right/wrong?
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a HS backroll is a reverse cartwheel across the wake ...
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