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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: Tri-Tip Reply with quote

Just got my new Q, who has a good recipe for some TRI-TIP? I told all my sluts about it, and now they want to try it.

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1/2 cup ground coffee beans, 3 tbsp coarse sea-salt, 1 tbsp fresh ground black pepper.

(if possible ground the coffee beans and coarse sea salt together, but not necessary)

Cover the steak in the rub, sear 1min each side, reduce heat (go indirect if possible) and cook 3-5 minutes each side until rare or med-rare whatever your preference is.

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ground coffee beans?

interesting,,, do you like rubs?

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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interesting,,, do you like rubs?


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What kind of sicko question is that? Razz Laughing

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet he likes pepper too Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I always grab whats in the fridge and concoct something. Things that work well for tri-tip marinade are (And I assume you mean tri-tip roast and not thin cut steaks) Worstechester (sp) sauce, soy sauce, fresh crushed garlic, salt, pepper, red wine, whiskey, etc. Put in a ziplock overnight. Heat grill to 500+ and place fat side down on indirect heat. Let cook 20 min then flip for another 20 min or until cooked to your preference. Some like to cut the tri-tip in half length wise and place it on the grill but I don't. If your good at burning meat, you can wrap it in foil. A good side dish is to cut up some unpealed potatos and put them in foil. Spray the foil with Pam first then add garlic, salt, butter and grated cheese. Put it on the top rack of your grill the whole time your cooking your tri-tip.
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oshensurfer,

LOL,,,

Back rub or banana rub?

I had seen that in a surf video.

I would choose the banana.

But check this sh1t out.

http://www.charcrust.com/

that sh1t is tight.

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get the Q-Grill (as seen on TV thing), or the Weber Q?

Only reason I ask is that the slow cook for a tri-tip might not work on the Q-Grill.


For the recipe, dry rub of my own black pepper/kosher salt/cumin/, and also use an injector with a butter/garlic sauce. Then sear the fat side of the tri-tip first, and then move it to the indirect side for the rest of the slow cook it with the fatty side on top so that the juice keeps it moist.

Cut diagonal.
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

muckmeister,
What stores carry that stuff? I'll have to try it.

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oshensurfer,

I live in Chi town and I just ordered from their website.

The ginger terriyaki is kick ass!

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite honestly I think you should cut it in half or thirds.

Try a few different recipes.

Dry rub

Marinate

Basic salt and pepper with a little BBQ sauce put on at the end.

If you use Worcester, I don't think you'd need Soy too. they are both plenty Salty. One or the other IMO. I prefer Wooster sauce myself over Soy. Either will do in a pinch.

Any way you go, make sure the meat is at room temperature, not chilled, before you cook it. That's the only way to get the char right and the rare right. A pink center is desired.

Being from Chicago, you'll probably understand that you want to BBQ it very much like a London Broil.

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the riqht q you don't need no artificial seasoning. All you need is a chunck of red meat a little salt to bring out the sugars and presto--pure perfection.
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about that. Tri-tip is a pretty poor cut of meat. If it wasn't for that butcher in Santa Maria realizing that slow cooking it with spices made it tender, they would still be throwing that cut away or giving it away. Now its a "Delicacy"

All I know, is there are a lot of ways to cook it but you gotta do it S L O W or it just doesn't work well. MMMM tri-tip sandwich! Laughing

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-Ro,

We only buy Tri Tip steaks, never tried the roast.

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know about that. Tri-tip is a pretty poor cut of meat. If it wasn't for that butcher in Santa Maria realizing that slow cooking it with spices made it tender, they would still be throwing that cut away or giving it away. Now its a "Delicacy"

All I know, is there are a lot of ways to cook it but you gotta do it S L O W or it just doesn't work well. MMMM tri-tip sandwich! Laughing


You quite obviously don't know anything about Tri-Tip except that it has "Santa Maria" attached to its name Rolling Eyes
You definitely don't have to slow roast it and it's not even cooked that way at all.
Tri-Tip is much more versatile cut of meat than that piece of garbage called Brisket.
And why are we re-living this topic anyhow? :
http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=44256&start=0

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady8,

I take it you don't like brisket? I've been trying for years to cook a decent one without success. They say a good barbeque person is measured by the ability to cook a good brisket. Unfortunately mine ends up being dog food.

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lcap, brisket is best done smoked ( aka true BBQ). Which is one reason I don't care for it. I'm more of a grilled meat fan Wink
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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady8,

That's my problem, keeping a constant fire going for 12 plus hours. I think the whole Brisket thing is B.S. anyway. I'm a perfect barbeque man, just me and the B.G.E. Mr. Green

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Dragonlady8,

That's my problem, keeping a constant fire going for 12 plus hours. I think the whole Brisket thing is B.S. anyway. I'm a perfect barbeque man, just me and the B.G.E. Mr. Green


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Barbecued Beef Brisket
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Barbecuing brisket for less than a crowd is easy to do. Simply ask your butcher for either the point or flat portion of the brisket, whichever cut you prefer. Then follow the master recipe, reducing the spice rub by half and grill-smoking for 1 1/2 hours. Wrap the meat tightly in foil and reduce its time in the oven to 2 hours.
serves 18 to 24

Spicy Chili Rub
4 tablespoons paprika 
2 tablespoons chili powder 
2 tablespoons ground cumin 
2 tablespoons dark brown sugar 
2 tablespoons table salt 
1 tablespoon ground oregano 
1 tablespoon granulated sugar 
1 tablespoon ground black pepper 
1 tablespoon ground white pepper 
2 teaspoons cayenne pepper 
1 whole beef brisket (point and flat cut together), 9 to 11 pounds, trimmed
1 bottle barbecue sauce (18 ounces)
1. For Spicy Chili Rub: Mix all ingredients in small bowl.
2. Apply dry rub liberally to all sides of brisket; wrap tightly in plastic wrap. Refrigerate for at least 2 and up to 48 hours.
3. One hour prior to cooking, remove brisket from refrigerator and unwrap. Ignite about 2 quarts of hardwood charcoal or charcoal briquettes in pile on one side of grill; burn until completely covered with thin coating of light gray ash, 20 to 30 minutes. Meanwhile, assemble hickory chip pouch by wrapping 4 to 6 wood chunks (about 3 inches each) or 3 cups wood chips in double sheet of heavy-duty foil. Prick at least 6 holes in top of foil pouch with knife tip to allow smoke to escape; place on top of ash-covered coals.
4. Set grill rack in place and position brisket, fat side up, on side of rack opposite fire. Make sure that both top and bottom grill vents are open; position holes in lid directly over brisket and cover grill. Grill-smoke brisket without removing lid so that smoke flavor permeates meat, 2 hours.
5. Adjust oven rack to middle position and heat oven to 300 degrees. Attach two 48-inch long pieces heavy-duty foil by folding long edges together 2 or 3 times, crimping tightly to seal well, to form an approximately 48- x 36-inch rectangle. Position brisket lengthwise in center of foil. Bring short edges over brisket and fold down, crimping tightly to seal. Repeat with long edges of foil to seal brisket completely. Place brisket on baking sheet; bake until fork-tender or instant-read thermometer inserted into thickest portion of meat registers 210 degrees, 3 to 3 1/2 hours.
6. Remove brisket from oven, loosen foil at one end to release steam, and rest for 30 minutes. Drain juices into large bowl. De-fat juices (you should have 1 1/2 to 2 cups) and mix in equal parts with barbecue sauce.
7. Unwrap brisket and place on cutting board. Separate into two sections. Slice each section, on the bias across the grain, into very thin slices. Moisten slices with some of the barbecue sauce mixture and serve, passing remaining sauce separately.

STEP BY STEP: The Best Way to Barbecue Brisket

1. Apply the dry rub generously to the brisket, pressing down to make sure the spices adhere. The meat should be completely obscured by the rub.
2. For controlled smoke release, wrap wood chips in foil and puncture the foil in several spots.

3. Place the brisket on the opposite side of the grill away from the coals and enclosed wood chips.
4. Wrap the frilled brisket in two 4-foot sections of heavy-duty foil that have been sealed together.

5. Seal foil sections together crosswise, then fold the sides of teh foil packet tightly up against the sides of the meat.
6. When the brisket comes out of the oven, use potholders or oven mitts to lift the baking sheet and carefully pour the juices into the bowl. Reserve the juices.

7. Since the grain on the two sections of the brisket goes in opposite directions, separate the two cuts before slicing.
8. Carve the brisket into thin slices, going against the grain on the diagonal.

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady8,

You're right, I don't know anything about tri-tip, how to cook it or the origin.

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Larry Viegas' memory is fuzzy about the exact date of the discovery of tri tip -- a barbecue favorite on the Central Coast. It was sometime in the late 1950s, he suspects.
But of one thing the Santa Maria man is certain--he was there when the first tri tip was prepared, ushering in a word-of-mouth success story for a cut of beef that was never held in much respect.

Viegas, a butcher, was a summer vacation replacement at the old Safeway store at the corner of Mill and Vine streets in Santa Maria (now the site of a high-rise housing unit for seniors). He was cutting large beef loins into sections of preferred top block sirloin and filet; the triangular shaped tips of the sirloin were set aside.

"We would cut it up in chunks for stew meat," he recalls, "and sometimes it would be used for hamburger."

But that day there was an overabundance of hamburger and stew meat, and the triangular cut was about to be wasted.

In the pinch, meat market manager Bob Shutz experimented. He bought a piece of the unwanted meat, seasoned it with salt, pepper and garlic salt, and placed it on a rack in his department's rotisserie.

"He just let it go around... for 45 minutes or an hour," Viegas says. "I told him he was going to chew that meat all day long, it was usually so tough. But I had never tried it in a whole piece."

He was in for a shock. "I couldn't believe it was going to be as tender as it was and as delicious as it was. The supervisor from the Santa Barbara office came into the store and tried it himself, and he wanted to know what it was."

It was a new cut "with a texture of its own and a flavor all its own," he says. And at the time its cost was significantly less than what was being charged for the traditional cuts of beef--about 90 cents a pound versus $1.90 - $1.95 a pound for top sirloin.

Shutz dubbed it "tri tip" and began giving samples to customers and occasionally selling a cooked piece. It was not an overnight success; Safeway didn't promote tri tip or sell it anywhere except at the Santa Maria store, Viegas says.

The breakthrough occured when Shutz opened his own meat market, known as the old Santa Maria Market, on North Broadway. He promoted the new cut and taught customers how to prepare it. Williams Brothers picked up the idea and began to market tri tip through its Central Coast chain.

For two decades tri tip remained a Central Coast -- and particularly Santa Maria -- delicacy. "I would ask a butcher in Santa Barbara for a tri tip," says Viegas, "and he wouldn't know what I was talking about."

Visitors and workers transferring from Vandenberg Air Force Base slowly spread the word. "People from the (San Joaquin) Valley were coming over here and buying it by the case and taking it back for barbecuing," Viegas recalls.

In 1986 tri tip can be found in many independent groceries in California, although it is still an unfamiliar word to barbecuers in most other states.

It is their loss, because when prepared properly tri tip is the ideal barbecue meat.

"It can be harder to work than other cuts," cautions Viegas, who learned to barbecue at the old Santa Maria Club (now the Landmark restaurant) and has worked at barbecues serving as many as 5,000 people.

"It can be a tough piece of meat if you make the mistake of taking all the fat off. If you put the fat side of the tri tip on the fire first, the moisture will come up through the meat and make it tender."

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="mbuck"]Did you get the Q-Grill (as seen on TV thing), or the Weber Q?

Only reason I ask is that the slow cook for a tri-tip might not work on the Q-Grill.

BRO! I should have clarified. Weber. Only way to go in Chicago. The Weber is from Chi Town and my buddy works next to their R&D office.

They always bring him crap to try. Thanks for the recipe. I will need to take some pics and post them.

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This sounds wierd, but try adding pepsi to your marinade. It helps tenderize the meat. They do it at a lot of restaurants, like Chevy's.
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I recommend looking here for Tri Tip recipes:
http://www.askthemeatman.com/tri-tip.htm
http://www.beeffoodservice.com/Cuts/Info.aspx?Code=48[/i]

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PostPosted: Jul 26, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonlady8

But the entire selection of the brisket is brain numbing. This much fat, this thick, this long, this cut, talk to the butcher, blah, blah, blah.

So for those of you who cook a brisket well, what is the story on the selection of the meat? Is it important? Not so important and what do you really look for?

I cook my Tri Tip steaks like all the others. Sear for two minutes (725 degrees), flip sear for two minutes and reduce heat. Remove after six minutes--medium rare.
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Buergday wrote:
This sounds wierd, but try adding pepsi to your marinade. It helps tenderize the meat. They do it at a lot of restaurants, like Chevy's.



What about Coke? How much pepsi?

Have you seen people make chicken over a beer can on a grill? It's good.

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What about Coke? How much pepsi?

I'm sure Coke would work too. Chevy's uses Pepsi because they're owned by Pepsi.
How much to use depends on how much meat and marinade you're using. For a normal sized tri tip I add about a cup to my marinade, but you don't want to go overboard and dilute your marinade too much.

Another good marinade is chopped garlic (LOTS), fresh chopped rosemary, salt, pepper, olive oil and chardonay. Not your typical BBQ flavor, but really tasty.
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muckmeister,

I know that this is a thread about tri-tip, but if you haven't tried it yet, dial up a beer can chicken for your sluts. Every guest I have ever had over is fastenated by the flavor and it is almost impossible to bubb rubb up.

A little olive oil on the skin to help the dry rub stick, 1/2 full can of beer, put some spices in the can, jam a potato where its head should be to seal it up, and throw it on the grill for an hour or so on low. I like to put a foil tent over the top of it as well.

Insane flavor and never dried out.
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PostPosted: Jul 27, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mbuck, WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING. We've tried it with different things too, like wine i beleive. But it seriously is the greatest chicken of all time!!!
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PostPosted: Jul 27, 2005 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mbuck,

I have had it once. My post right before yours, I asked if people have done it. That chicken looks damn good.

It is very juicy for certain.

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muckmeister, I guess reading the thread prior to posting does help.
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lcap, Brisket needs to have fat on it and about 2-3 inches thick. I cook mine at 275 using indirect heat and start at about 4 in the morning and take it off when the temp inside the meat is 140 usaully about 12-16 hrs. You must use mesquite wood or pecan and put a pan of water on the inside. Use a rub of your choice and coat the whole brisket and cook with the fat side up. If it starts to look a little dry overcooked on the outside put foil around it. Good luck it takes a few.
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mbuck,

Did I make the mistake the other night. I did not put a drip pan under the chicken. What a mess that turned into. First the chicken got burned in the first 10 minutes. Then my girlie tried to do something and the chicken fell over and beer spilled everywhere. Then we decided to ditch the chicken and make the burgers but continued to cook the chicken without the can. Even with all that chaos, the chicken still tasted damn good.

I will try this again, this time with a drip pan.

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Drip pan is a must or the above will happen. The pan also allows it to cook somewhat slower and indirect which makes a bit juicier.

Next time you are at Walmart / Home Depot / or local grocery store, you might pick up this little stand they make specially for the beer can chicken, works like a charm. Second time my chick fell over in the grill, I threw in the towel and picked one up, they are like $4 or so.
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