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Getting a better wake with my small I/O.

 
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 9:24 am    Post subject: Getting a better wake with my small I/O. Reply with quote

Hey guys, Im wondering how I should go about getting a better wake out of my boat. There are a number of constraints as far as hard ballast. The boat is on a small channel connected to the big lake. There are a few spots where we need to trim up all the way to keep the prop from hitting the ground, so I dont think we can keep much permanent ballest in there. Its also a pain in the ass because we have to go under a low bridge with only about 6" clearance from the windshield, so we have to take down the pylon every time.

Anyway, the boart is an 18 four winns horizon, with a 190 HP i/o. I was planning to get a locker sack, but recently I was thinking about other options. Maybe instead of a locker sack, how about a 600# sac up front like a bow fill in, stretching back through the walkthrough. That would center the extra ballast a little more forward so that I could trim up a little more than normal. Would I be better off with a locker sack and maybe a couple hundred pounds of sand up front? I could probably get away with a few hundred pounds of hard ballast, but nothing approaching a thousand. What do you guys suggest?


BTW, sorry for posting this here, I figured it was more of a noob question than anything else.

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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colclough999 wrote:
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Whats your mom doing this weekend? Smile

I knew I set myself up for the fat chick comment, seems to be popular on this forum.

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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got a 600lbs sac for our 20' Horizon and I put it right in front of the back seat this weekend, it helped carve a bigger wake but still nothing huge. I'm going to have to get at least another 600, however I do want to move this first one to the storage locker to see how that works. So based on this I would say that with your 18' Horizon you are still going to need 800+lbs which I guess will not work with your area.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I can probably fit the 600 or 750 pound sac in the walkthrough or in the ski locker. I can probably put some sandbags up front or in the engine compartment.

Does anyone know about how much lower the boat will sit with a thousand pounds of ballast? Are we talking an inch or two or more like 8 inches? I know this hinges on many variables, but I just want a ballpark, since I dont want to run aground going through the shallows.

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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colclough999, Im sorry but you just got owned.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GuitsBoy, perfect set up on the fat chick joke
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GuitsBoy, 1000 lbs dunks my 19' boat about 4" or so
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first of all i get loads of friends and shift them around the boat hopefully 60% in the front and 40% of weight int the front
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomOgorman wrote:
first of all i get loads of friends and shift them around the boat hopefully 60% in the front and 40% of weight int the front


I try to do this when possible, but its tough to gather friends since its a 5 hour drive to our cabin (where the boat is). We usually have between 4 and 6 of us. Im sure several hundred to 1k lbs would help out tremendously, especially if its towards the front so we can trim up without porpoising. I just hope there's enough balls from the dig.

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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want to add more weight to the front since its an i/o. Right now i have about 600 lbs in the bow and a 300 in the back. My wake is pretty nice. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GuitsBoy wrote:
Colclough999 wrote:
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Whats your mom doing this weekend? Smile



hahaha... ill remember that tough guy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a 17ft I/O and we drop a 600 pound sac right across the front seats in the bow and then put the trim 3/4 of the way down... then I've got a couple small jugs of lead just to keep the wake even. It works pretty well - but I wouldn't want to put much more weight in since it's only a 4 cyl.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontrider've g wrote:
then I've got a couple small jugs of lead just to keep the wake even.


Where'd you get your hands on a lead pot to melt it down? plumbing supply house?
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No melting... old tire weights in jugs. A small jug weighs about 40lbs loose, so it works fine for me. I have no intentions of getting into melting lead. Smile
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