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HS Backroll: head to lead shoulder or rear shoulder!?

 
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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: HS Backroll: head to lead shoulder or rear shoulder!? Reply with quote

I've seen 100 posts about HS Backrolls and I always see two different things:

1 - "throw your head towards your rear hip"

2- "tuck chin onto lead shoulder, look away"

Are they both accurate? If not, which is right?

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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2005 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You put your head on your rear shoulder. I don't even know what the tuck chin onto lead thing is for.. sounds like a hs front sort of.

But yes, its head on rear or trailing shoulder.
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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2005 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PUT YOUR CHIN ON YOUR FRONT SHOULDER. It is very important to look over your front shoulder, not just put your head on your rear shoulder.
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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2005 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See...here we go.

So re re, are you saying to do both?

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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now, do this. If you are Left foot forward, turn your head to the left as far as it will go. Now look up as much as you can without turning your head back. That's what you need to do. (If you ride goofy, do the opposite)
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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, your rotation is end over end (sort of), so your line of sight needs to be parallel with that direction of rotation.
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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2005 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just make sure you do an actual backroll instead of a mexican..i can't stand the way those look..that's a kneeboarder roll. get it right or dont claim it to be a backroll Evil or Very Mad sorry had to vent.
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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can spot your landing just as fast if you put your head on your rear shoulder. Putting your head on the back shoulder will help initate the rotation off of the wake.

As far as spotting the water, there is a few inches of difference. Putting your head on the rear shoulder will make sure your rotation is correct, and you can still spot your landing.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what does a mexi backroll look like? is there a post that i can look at that has one? i dont want mine to be ugly Sad.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2005 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a front flip.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2005 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup what [b]re re[/r] said, that and it's almost like the opposite rotation of a tantrum. the main way you can tell is if the board is parallel to the boat during the rotaiton, it's mexican. if the board is perpindicular at a 90 deg angle it's a legit backroll. i'm trying to get my brother to stop doing mexicans so i will get him to learn it the right way this weekend.
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is a mexican backroll the same thing as a 'front roll'?
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i've heard "there's no such thing as a hs frontroll"
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be called that, if it weren't already called a Mexi roll
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PostPosted: Jul 18, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

will putting my head on my rear shoulder off the launch keep me from going revert? For some reason i always go revert instead of a regular backroll. Pretty close to landing it i just slip out all the time. I would still like to learn a regular backroll though and think it should be easier to land without being switch.
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PostPosted: Jul 19, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this will clear it up for you, to do a true HS Backroll, you look up and over your front shoulder, but that puts your back ear on your back shoulder - so actually both arguments could be right depending on what you are talking about

Look up and over your front shoulder, or chin to front shoulder, back ear to back shoulder

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PostPosted: Jul 19, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, keeping the handle by your lead hip instead of getting lazy and letting it go to your back hip will keep you from going to revert. If you are slipping out on the roll to revert, you probably need to focus on getting the board turned a little farther and land over your toes more, just like on a HS 180.
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