"How To Handle The Protesters"

Grouch · Posted: Mar 28, 2003 2:23 pm Post subject: "How To Handle The Protesters"

With the current war raging in Iraq, many of us will encounter "Peace Activists" who will try and convince us that we must refrain from riding the world of Saddam and the people that he supports... Many of them terrorists. Do you remember September 11, 2001?
These activists may be alone or in a gathering... Most of us don't know how to react to them. When you come upon one of these people, or one of their rallies, here are the proper rules of etiquette:

1. Listen politely while this person explains their views. Strike up a conversation if necessary and look very interested in their ideas. They will tell you how revenge is immoral, and that by attacking the evil regimes and the people who did this to us, we will only bring on more violence. They will probably use many arguments, ranging from political to religious to humanitarian.

2. In the middle of their remarks, without any warning, punch them in the nose.

3. When the person gets up off of the ground, they will be very angry and they may try to hit you, so be careful.

4. Very quickly and calmly remind the person that violence only brings about more violence and remind them of their stand on this matter. Tell them if they are really committed to a non-violent approach, they will turn the other cheek and negotiate a solution. Tell them they must lead by example if they really believe what they are saying.

5. Most of them will think for a moment and then agree that you are correct.

6. As soon as they do that, hit them again. Only this time hit them much harder. Square in the nose.

7. Repeat steps 2-5 until the desired results are obtained and the person realizes how stupid of an argument he/she is making.

There is no difference in an individual attacking an unsuspecting victim or a group of terrorists attacking a nation of people. It is unacceptable and must be dealt with. Perhaps at a high cost.

We owe our military a huge debt for what they are about to do for us and our children. We must support them and our leaders at times like these. We have no choice. We either strike back, VERY HARD, or we will keep getting hit in the nose.

If you can't be a good example, at least be a horrible warning

RUSSIAN · Posted: Mar 28, 2003 5:11 pm Post subject:

very nice grouch, I think I'll go to the city tonight and see what trouble I can cause. There's a critical mass ride tonight which will be joined by protesters, downtown is expected to be shut down by all the activity Shocked

RUSSIAN · Posted: Mar 28, 2003 5:20 pm Post subject:

forgot about the giants game, I would have to have left at noon to get there now Shocked

S.F. is going to be crazy tonight

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

"There is no difference in an individual attacking an unsuspecting victim or a group of terrorists attacking a nation of people. It is unacceptable and must be dealt with. Perhaps at a high cost."

So it is unacceptable to hit someone, but yet you are calling for war supporters to create this kind of violence. You make no sense. Also, there is a big difference between a punch and a terrorist attack. I'm sorry that you are unable to see it.

I'm not really finding the connection between this post and the war since we were never attacked by Iraq. And there is little to no connection between Saddam and Osama also.

RUSSIAN · Posted: Mar 28, 2003 7:55 pm Post subject:

didn't they find al-queda members in iraq today???

OttoNP · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 848 City: MI

Jello John,

Do you lack the ability of abstract though? The parellel is fairly obvious...you may disagree but there is an obvious similarity.

Nick

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

Funny thought- Anti-War people claim there is no connection between terrorist and Saddam... Anti-War people claim this war will lead to more terrorism... Anyone find this funny???

JHrod · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3144

nor*cal---have you not yet come to a conclusion that war protesters are some of the dumbest most hypocritical people alive----your point is very funny and the exact reason why protesters need to be punched in the manner grouch has shown

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

JHrod · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3144

the parallel you are missing is that war protesters are most likely extremely hypocritical about their beliefs and that few would actually turn the other cheek----like otto said it is very obvious

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

JHrod · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3144

america is hitting back after iraq hit 2 million kurds with chemical weapons, broke the U.N. restrictions, and decieved the inspectors with tricks and ploys devised to hide the banned wmd and various other weapons----i think bush was tired of being tricked and finally took a stand and now saddams gonna get the ass whooping he's deserved for over 2 decades----iraq brought it upon themselves

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

This is not a first strike. This war was set in motion 12 years ago when Iraq decided to invade Kuwait. Remember that ended with a cease fire not a peace treaty.

My first statement was a light hearted joke. Just a funny thought. It wasn't meant to be used for a critique.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

By the way... I am willing to listen to the other side and debate the issues. I'm not close minded on the subject. I have read and researched both sides and I feel strongly that what we are doing is the right thing.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

I wasn't refering to you Nor*Cal.

As Stated · Criminal Joined: 04 Mar 2003 Posts: 89

They need to give them 48 hours for whoever they want to get out than they need to nuke Iraq. Everyone that stayed behind can grow arms out of their head for all I care. When they talk about civilian deaths in the war, they are the sick ones strapping bombs to themselves and cars and blowing up our own troops. They can get it as well.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

JHrod · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3144

As Stated---it is not as easy as it seems----Saddam is a sadistical man and to keep america from doing what you suggest(which they would never do) he uses his special soldiers to hold family members hostage to keep them from leaving, and he use soldiers to keep them there-----its either our bullet or his so we are trying to keep our bullets reserved for Saddam and his friends only------if america used a nuke it would be WW3 and we would be the bad guys

B-rad · Posted: Mar 31, 2003 8:08 am Post subject:

I find it humerous who pro-war supporters can make jokes about both sides and try to find some fort of humor and happiness in the situation. Yet a non-war supporter will turn everything they can into an arguement or some sort of debate against moral issues. Lighten the F*** up for a change and laugh.

keke · Newbie Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 2

People who supports war sucks. If they would be in IRAQ with their brothers, they would be against war. Stop innocents death for oil !!!
There are 19 members of the bush administration cabinet. How many are millionaires ?
18, and seven members are worth more than $10 millions.
Do you think that they are fighting for YOUR freedom ?

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

ohsix · Posted: Apr 06, 2003 11:02 am Post subject:

DaveBrowning · Posted: Apr 06, 2003 2:11 pm Post subject:

keke - so you think we shouldn't have innocent lives taken for oil? but i bet you support abortion, don't you? those are innocent lives. ironic huh?!

ohsix · Posted: Apr 06, 2003 2:38 pm Post subject:

Dave- it's not about oil.

DaveBrowning · Posted: Apr 06, 2003 2:42 pm Post subject:

i know it's not. i'm just trying to make keke feel stupid. Wink

Mullet Man · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 132 City: SoCal

One more thing Keke. Do you watch the news at all? How many anti-war remarks have you actually heard from our "brothers"? Not only are they courageously there fighting for our safety and the safety of other countries, but they are doing it by choice. There was no draft! They did not join the military to learn how to bake cookies or perfect their arts and crafts abilities, they joined to protect and fight for our country. Did we want to go to war with Iraq? No, we were forced to after many, many years of warnings and trying to work things out. The choice to go to war was made by your favorite leader Saddam.

Josh R · Posted: Apr 07, 2003 12:53 am Post subject:

People who are convinced they are right will not change thier views.
I think this topic has shown that quite well...

criminally_minded · Posted: Apr 07, 2003 2:21 am Post subject:

Mullet Man wrote:

nick e[V]ans · Posted: Apr 07, 2003 3:24 am Post subject:

yes cm, "FORCED"

As Stated,
america seems to be doing a fine job of blowing themselves up, i cannot believe how much "collateral damage" and "friendly fire" has taken place. i saw on the news tonight that an american jet bombed an american convoy of soldiers and media and 18 ppl were missing. how can an army be blowing themselves up with such regularity

nick e[V]ans · Posted: Apr 07, 2003 3:30 am Post subject:

i know my comments may be a little harsh and may offend some people, but u gotta face the facts
nick

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

People who support abortion do not believe that a fetus is a human life until it can survive on its own outside the mother. So it is not hypocritical for them to be against the death penalty and against war. In their minds, abortion is not the taking of a LIFE.

Just understand this before you say

nick e[V]ans · Posted: Apr 07, 2003 3:59 am Post subject:

where the hell did you pull abortion from dude.
abortion is a whole new issue. the human fetus has no idea of whats going on around it at all up until 8 weeks, the brain has very little development at this stage.

do you honestly think that a fetus that is killed is that bad considering that if it was born it would be born into an environment which is most likely financially and socially unsuitable for it, ie. teenage mother, single mother, mother living in poverty. i personally believe that if someone cannot support the child, they should be able to work towards improving their life before they ruin 2 lives.
nick

B-rad · Posted: Apr 07, 2003 6:29 am Post subject:

You guys crack me up. John gets offended because I saw that he's taking things too seriously because of a post that is about hitting a war protester. John, this actually offends you, yet in a different post you have said it is OK to pay homeless people to fight? So, here is what I have so far: Posts that are humerous in nature but advacte viloence to war protester are morally wrong. Paying 2 homeless people to fight over $ or making them do push ups for $$ is morally acceptable. OK, got it... less talk about funny things more harrasessment of homeless people.[/quote]

wakedork · Posted: Apr 07, 2003 6:35 am Post subject:

Here are a few things to consider

the war is not about OIL, if you think it is then you are wrong and ill informed, i won't call you stupid just ill informed.

We were forced into war. Why because a person who has shown in trhe past to be unstable and a mad man had wepons of mass destruction that he had no problems with using on his own people and had made threats against us and other nations over the years. This man has no respect for people or for the laws set forth by the Unied nations. Everybody else follows the rules so he can to. If you don't think he is a mad man or evil look at the war and what he has done as tatics. he has broken every rule of engagement set forth by the Geneva Convention. He is mad and he needs to be stopped. I fwe did not step in and do it no one else was going to and he could at any time used those weapons against us or any one else, he has proven that he has not quams about killing people even his own.

And no one should use Nukes ever, I don't care how far away they are it will effect us in some way.