Pop off the wake/jumping on the wake the right way...

ProPayne · Criminal Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 77 City: San Angelo

I've ran a search and tried all of the techniques to pop. i wait for the boat to pull me in when i cut out...then i slowly build my cut up harder and harder and then i dont stand tall until i hit the top of the wake. my friends tell me i should push with my right foot and pull up wiht my left like an ollie motion. i dont know if this technique is true or not. please...any advice would make me happy because ive tried almost everything and still no go...and ive been on the boat ALOT lately.

nubcake · Newbie Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 11 City: KC

no dont do that

ProPayne · Criminal Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 77 City: San Angelo

okay thanks..hoping for a litttle more detail if anyone has any info/ideas. i also have read the trick tips progressive edge and watched the video

wake1ghuth · Outlaw Joined: 03 Jul 2003 Posts: 177 City: Columbus

Just don't try to ollie off the top, just stiffen up your legs while leaning away from the boat. hit the wake with even weight over left and right feet. Trying to Ollie at the wake is called loading the tail and it will produce a kind of front flip effect.

LFADAM · Posted: Jun 15, 2005 6:43 am Post subject:

ProPayne, 5 Key things on a wake jump

1.) Coast
2.) Progressive Edge
3.) Stand tall at the wake
4.)Edge all the way through the wake
5.)Keep handle near hips

ProPayne · Criminal Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 77 City: San Angelo

thank you . i should go out on the lake today and i will try what you guys have said.

Vampyre · Addict Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 622 City: Ooltewah, TN

Let me know if that works. I too am having the same exact trouble. I will try this at the lake also. I think my problem is that I am trying to ramp up the wake, similar to my skateboarding days. I find myself pulling my legs up to get "air" rather than getting the pop that I read about.

ballywho · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 1725

You should be standing tall before the top of the wake. Your knee's should be locked by the time you reach the top.
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Landon126 · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Louisville

A good thing to do just to get the feel of it is to cut hard and progressive at the wake and straighten your legs a few feet before the wake. Don't do anything other than that and just ride through the wake with very strong body position.

Note: this is NOT the correct way to get good air, but it will show you that you don't need to get fancy at the wake. Just do it a few times and you will start to understand how having strong body position will transfer the energy of the wake through you and push you upwards.

Then, work on timing that "stand tall" motion and you're moving up the wake rather than a few feet before it.

In other words, don't kill yourself initially over the timing, just purposely ruin the timing by going way early, but do it right (the strong stance) a few times until you get the hang of it.

That helped me a lot anyway. Good luck.

ProPayne · Criminal Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 77 City: San Angelo

thanks landon. didnt get a chance to make it out today.hopefully tomorrow tho.

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

you had it right before. You don't ollie off the wake you simply extend. Timing is the part you're probably missing.

It's not a like a jump. It's not a fast motion. You don't get to the top of the wake and then jump. As you are riding up the wake you extend your legs so they are fully extended once you reach the top of the wake. So you start the extension at the bottom of the wake and finish it at the top. It will come with time, it just takes practice.

138DNAparks · Outlaw Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 188 City: Moses Lake

Just make sure you edge all the way up the wake, when I was first learning to jump that was my problem to. It may feel like you are, but get it on video and you can see what you are doing.

ProPayne · Criminal Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 77 City: San Angelo

okay. i got my pop andgot w2w. only thing now is sticking the landing. ive read about edging through the wake and tried it.but i cant do it. my friens also say i freeze up in the air and dont do anything to land. ?????help please??

supermangan · Newbie Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 16 City: San Angelo

chris you dont freeze up in the air as much as you get to the peak and when the boat starts to get back its slack and pull you you go forward with it and thats why your face always hits, and i do it alot 2. gotta learn to keep the handle at your waist and spot your landing. its more of a thing you have to feel. atleast thats what i think. cause as soon as i do land mine i know what ive been doing wrong/right.

patoloco · Posted: Jun 20, 2005 9:48 am Post subject:

Interesting on the ollie thing...I was at The Projects a couple of years ago and Pat P taught me specifically to do an "ollie-like" move when I hit the wake in order to pop more up than out. Hold progressive edge, stand tall/ollie.

I had him repeat it and show me a couple of times to make sure I had not misunderstood, since I had also heard differently. Oddly enough, it works for me and by the end of the month I was going higher and further into the flats...but the timing is pretty difficult.

Landon126 · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Louisville

Ya, when i want to get extra high, i do the ollie right before i take off....you are right, timing is hard.

Vampyre · Addict Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 622 City: Ooltewah, TN

I think that I finally got it.
Here is what I did:
edge out about 15 ft.
Put handle down by hips, even lower.
start edging harder and faster all the way through the wake.
knees bent, like sitting in a chair , starting from outside.
straighten legs as riding up wake, keep the handle down!
What I was doing before was trying to ollie off the top of the wake, pulling my feet up.
Prob the part that helped the most was the handle low.

supermangan · Newbie Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 16 City: San Angelo

i ollie off the wake, and it works better than when i dont so i think i'll stick with that.

DadKid · Outlaw Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 140 City: Ottawa

Maybe someone more experienced can comment but I've never heard that you're supposed to Ollie. It may help compensate for other faults if you time it right. But I think you'll never reach your potential. And it could throw you off balance by putting your weight unvenly of you feet. Are you able to do spins and grabs that way?

FunkmaztafoX · Outlaw Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 238 City: Charlotte

I'm not experienced but I've gotten to the point where if I dont start stomping some good tricks, then people will ridicule me by now.

So I focused on what i thought an important problem would be, the pop off the jump. I have ALWAYS ollied off the wake. Until last weekend I thought anyone saying you aren't supposed to ollie is a fool. I was reading up on similar posts such as this and this one and went back to the basics of wakeboarding. Used my progressive edge and cut in super hard then just let the wake do the rest. Although I didn't take note of straightening my legs or keeping the handle down i was getting SICK air landing way in the flats, without even ollie'ing. So definately dont try to jump over the wake, the natural motion will pop you off.

wake1ghuth · Outlaw Joined: 03 Jul 2003 Posts: 177 City: Columbus

FunkmaztafoX, Good to hear you are progressing.... It really starts to get exciting with each new trick you learn. It becomes a drug... I hope your girlfriend likes to board... cause if she doesn't she will be dumping you soon. "Where were you? Why didn't you answer your phone?... I was at the lake. I don't get cell service down there.... You're always at the lake. You don't love me as much as wakeboarding.... bla bla bla bla....
wohhhh, sorry, what was this post about again????

Landon126 · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Louisville

Girls are like anchors man...they just hold you back. Every now and then they are nice to have tho. haha.

fergie23 · Posted: Jun 24, 2005 10:36 am Post subject:

once you use a progressive edge, straighten your legs at the wake, keep the handle low and pop of the wake, do you usually keep your legs straight while in the air or bend your knees? (just on a HS W2W...no grabs or anything)

Which works best for landing the jump W2W?