END OF THE BAN FOR NOW

[8824]

Any of you guys buying previously banned f1rearms or accessories?

[E.J.]

Nope...usually spend my money on worthwhile purchases....

[BrandonC]

[Leggester]

Nope, already had high capacity magazines.

My newest purchases have actually devolved. I got into black powder pistols.

[8824]

The black powder route,,,,, I heard those are fun to shoot.


I see the good ole number 9 there...

[8824]

[Leggester]

They are a kick in the pants. And a lot easier to clean. I found out that you don't use solvent. Just really hot soapy water. You have to get the barrel 'aged' like a cast iron frying pan.

They are extremely cheap too. The whole rig, including powder, balls, caps, holster... ... cost less than three bills.

[Dragonlady8]

[Dragonlady8]

Leggester, is that similar to "Texas" Shooting?

[Leggester]

I bet you're thinking of "Cowboy Shooting" tourneys? Yes, they can be used for that, but most competitors use 1870 era cartridge pistols and rifles.

For accuracy, the kind I have is great. Speed is an issue though, that's why the more modern cartridge black powder is used.

[Dragonlady8]

Yes i am....and thank you for the correction My upstairs neighbor back in CA did that, he would rely on my dog to protect his collection .
He would reload his ammo @5am every morning . But he was pretty cool about it when it he found out I was still sleeping during that time. Then he changed it to 630
He competed all over the country.

[79nawteak]

79nawteak + temper + firearms = Bad news

[8824]

79nawteak,



Do you have your FOID card

[79nawteak]

[8824]

Fire Arms Owner ID card

[Leggester]

Hehehehe, Illinois Boy!

I can just get the background check in a gunstore and walk out with a firearm. No wait, no registration.

[79nawteak]

[8824]

79nawteak,

Then you shouldnt drive or be able to vote. More people are killed form cars than anything else.

[79nawteak]

So, Let me get this straight. I think some people that are 21 years of age haven't fully devoloped the maturity and self control to own a handgun. That means I shouldn't be able to vote or drive a car.

[J_DOGG]

E.J., If you are not down with it, why even waste your time tryn to bash it and do something worthwhile instead?

[chipsevila]

[8824]

[8824]

Media centre > Press releases > Press releases 2004
Thousands of avoidable deaths and injuries from road traffic crashes: new reports urge joint action


Road traffic injuries in the WHO European Region: the population groups and countries most affected [pdf, 100KB]
Fact Sheet EURO/03/04
Copenhagen, Rome, 6 April 2004
Also available in: fr[pdf, 90KB], de[pdf, 90KB], ru[pdf, 215KB]

World Health Day 2004 - road safety

World report on road traffic injury prevention

Preventing road traffic injury: a public health perspective for Europe

A call to action: key messages from the WHO report 'Preventing road traffic injury: a public health perspective for Europe' [pdf, 72KB]
Executive summary
Also available in: ru[pdf, 95KB]


Press Release EURO/02/04
Copenhagen, Rome, 6 April 2004
Road traffic injuries kill as many as 350 people per day, or over 127 000 every year in the WHO European Region. It is as if a catastrophic event killed the population of a middle-sized city each year. At least 2.4 million people are injured and disabled in road traffic crashes annually. Out of over 2 million car crashes per year, nearly 65% occur in towns, where pedestrians and cyclists are particularly exposed. This evidence on road death tolls is contained in the World report on road traffic injury prevention, to be released by WHO and the World Bank on 7 April, World Health Day, and in Preventing road traffic injury: a public health perspective for Europe, prepared by the WHO Regional Office for Europe.

The scale of death and disability caused by traffic injuries makes them a leading public health issue. Yet death and injury on the roads are not random events. Understanding what risk factors lead to crashes and how to prevent them is the main objective of the European study. It identifies the measures that are known to work and highlights the gap between knowledge and its implementation.

"It is time to stop considering traffic deaths and injuries as an unavoidable consequence of road use: they are preventable. Every year some 6500 children die on the roads, and this is unacceptable," says Dr Marc Danzon, WHO Regional Director for Europe. "Increasing road traffic safety is everyone's concern. Transport planners, car manufacturers, and health authorities and professionals have an important role to play in protecting the human right to health."

Speed is the leading killer on the roads. Estimates for the European Union (EU) indicate that reducing the average driving speed by 3 km/h would save around 5000-6000 lives each year and would prevent 120 000-140 000 crashes, saving €20 billion in crash costs. In contrast, raising the speed from 30 km/h to 50 km/h increases a pedestrian's risk of being killed in a car crash eightfold. For car occupants, the risk of death in a crash is 20 times higher at an impact speed of 80 km/h than at 32 km/h.

In the WHO European Region, children and young people pay the highest price. Car crashes are the leading cause of death for people aged 5-29 years. This group accounts for more than 30% of crash victims. In this age group, young men represent 80% of the total number of victims. High speed and drink-driving are the main risk factors for them.

Although attributing a cost to the loss of human lives is hard, estimates show that, in some countries, economic loss from road traffic injuries accounts for about 2% of gross domestic product. For the EU, this means some €180 billion per year. According to Preventing road traffic injury: a public health perspective for Europe, the countries of central and eastern Europe are even more severely affected than western Europe, and deaths and injuries are likely to rise even further there, as the number of vehicles on the roads increases.

The high health burden of road traffic injuries adds to other adverse health effects related to transport, such as those resulting from air pollution, noise, increasingly sedentary lifestyles and global climate change.

Road traffic safety is part and parcel of sustainable transport and a core issue for the health sector. The key question tackled by the European study is how public health can serve the common objective of creating a healthy transport system and saving lives.

The two WHO reports emphasize two pillars of the new thinking about road safety:

to refuse to accept death and severe injuries as consequences of traffic crashes; and
to adapt the roads to people's vulnerability.
The challenge now is to galvanize the countries in the WHO European Region to adopt this new thinking. "The dedication of World Health Day 2004 to road safety is an opportunity to become aware of the death toll weighing on our communities, and of the successful application of new thinking in some Member States. This shows that strong political commitment and comprehensive measures pay off in health gains," concludes Dr Roberto Bertollini, Director, Division of Technical Support, Health Determinants, WHO Regional Office for Europe.
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found this in 5 seconds, I think there is better info on there though

[8824]

[pyrocasto]

Unfortunantly, not old enough to buy a pistol yet, but in 2 years I'll go for a .45 and a conceal and carry permit.

[todd]

Try using the minimum black powder load to shoot a blackpowder revolver sometime!!!It's just like shooting a BB gun.The ball just bounces off cardboard!Makes a good laugh!

[8824]

[pyrocasto]

Anyone into silencers?



I'm not really, but my friend is. Fun to shoot with, though much different than most people think, as the movies portray as well.

[HatzicMotive140]

having a scilencer in canada is illegal... we ahve to regester our guns up here too kinda gay if you ask me.

[8824]

Ummmm, I think they are illegal in the states as well.

Hatz, how many can you have in Canada?

[J_DOGG]

muckmeister, NO they are not illegal in the states!


You just need to pay the FEDs a $200 fee and wait 3 months then they put you in the Database with your fingerprints and all that good stuff..

[marcg]

Post Ban Purchase:

A factory 17 Round Clip for a Taurus PT-92....this is now maxed out without having the clip extend.

[8824]

[Leggester]

Basically, yes. You can even own a fully automatic 50 cal, with the right registrations.

[8824]

where do they sell those?

Any websites out there?

WOW, I am glad I started this thread.