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new boat...cant clear the wake

 
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Jared A.
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject: new boat...cant clear the wake Reply with quote

i used to have a 01 elite v drive air warrior and i could clear the wake really easily, but now with our 05 avalanche i cant clear it. i land right on top....what is the best way to gain speed, do i lean back or what? also, i can do a 180 switch heelside and switch toe side but i cant land one doing heelside 180...any tips? thanks
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2005 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, first use a progressive edge, here read this \/ , it will tell you everything you need to know to understyand the progressive edge.

http://www.wakeboarder.com/display.phtml?a=50

that should get you going high enough and far enough, if that doesnt help, then shorten the rope until you can, then when you get better and start landing past the wake then lenghthen the rope again to the normal length. lots of riders do it...when i was learning i didn't think of that so i jsut told my dad to go really fast, and the wake became small enough for me to jump w2w, but the falls really hurt. so i recomend jsut shorten the rope.
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PostPosted: Jun 03, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright, i tried doing it shorter, but i would over clear the wake and i felt that i couldnt carve out as far as i wanted to. i will just shorten it than. what is the general distance everyone uses?????
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PostPosted: Jun 04, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a pro but ive read that the pros use up to 85ft, this alloting them the maxium air time and distance to throw as big as a trick as possible. We started out at 55ft plus handle then we got better and we ride as 70ft with handle. Really just depends on you on how many feet to ride at. Hope this helps.......
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PostPosted: Jun 05, 2005 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i couldnt clear the wake off my new boat either, i told my dad to speed it up a bit, now he goes about 23 (used to go 19-20) and now im landing way out in the flats..
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PostPosted: Jun 05, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jared A., how long is the rope you are useing? i use i think a 65 foot inclueing the handle, i can land in the flats on my boat no prob....but it also depends on the boat and how wide the wake gets at however many feet from the boat. so lengthen it a bit until you can clear the wakeonly, not land in the flats, then once you get better make it longer again.
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PostPosted: Jun 05, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sometimes i use 65 ft and other times i use 70
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PostPosted: Jun 05, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

our rope is 65 i think but i can clear it at 55, but 60 is to hard, off this wake i can get TONS of air but it just dosnt throw me far, its bugging me caus eon our old boat i could clear it easily. and we ride at about 22, any faster i feel that i can clear the wake easier but its just less air time.
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PostPosted: Jun 06, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jared A. wrote:
our rope is 65 i think but i can clear it at 55, but 60 is to hard, off this wake i can get TONS of air but it just dosnt throw me far, its bugging me caus eon our old boat i could clear it easily. and we ride at about 22, any faster i feel that i can clear the wake easier but its just less air time.


You might be loading the line too much with your back foot coming into the wake. I use to have this same problem when I rode. Best tip I got for someone with this problem is work on pushing down more with your front foot coming into the weak and then push more with your backfoot when you hit the wake. Weighting your front foot as you come into the wake gives you the speed to clear the wake, and the back foot when you hit the wake gives you more pop (don't exaggerate this too much).

In general the trick tips on the boards are what you want to do, but this is how I corrected my problem of loading the line incorrectly with my back foot. Once I fixed that it was trivial to figure out how much pressure to put on the front foot to give myself the speed I wanted to clear the wake based upon the strength of my edge.
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PostPosted: Jun 06, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that sounds good, i will give it a try!! its also hard for me to try not to jump when i hit the wake. i wish when i first started i had someone who could show me all the basic stratgies so i wouldnt have to be learning them now!
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PostPosted: Jun 06, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cut harder and speed it up i think alot of ppl covered it pretty good.
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im going to go test it out tommarow, i will let you know what happenes
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PostPosted: Jun 08, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i went out today and practiced what you guys said, brought the boat to 23 and was clearing the wake almost everytime!!! thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey thats what we are here for bro.
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