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doing tricks off "the dumper"

 
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PostPosted: May 16, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: doing tricks off "the dumper" Reply with quote

also known as the "turn," "booter", or the "arc"......i saw it in the new issue of wakeboarding mag. has anybody actually used this in the past, and if so, does it really help?
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried the dumper this weekend...it is a cushier landing if you get the timing right. It does take some practice for the timing. I think it's definitely worth it. Experiment w/reg. wake jumps until you get the hang of it. Then move on
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

awesome thanks....anybody else???
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is it?
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive never tried it but it seems like it could be a useful comcept. ill have to try it.
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

als132, Ya what is the dumper? Never heard of it. But it does have an interesting name.
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive watched some good riders do it to practice tantrum to blinds- the landing is soft in the wash and there is enough slack in the line to pass the handle around after the landing.
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its alright the rope doesnt stay as tight though
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see doing it if you don't have a clean wake or if you are learning a new trick but other than that it is pointless IMO
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the 3rd time WTF does it mean?
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PostPosted: May 17, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for all of those who were wondering, some pros explain it as the "foam pit of wakeboarding", because there is so much slack on the rope at the end, and the wash is usually pretty soft, so falling doesnt really hurt as much. Check out the new issue of Wakeboarding Mag, itll show you. pretty muhc, you turn the direction that the person is cutting in, as they are starting their cut towards the wake, and then turn the boat back in a straight liine. theres more to it than that, but thats just a short explanation.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what page in the mag so I can find it. I looked for it yesterday and I couldn't find it.
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PostPosted: May 19, 2005 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its towards the end of the mag in the higher learning section.
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PostPosted: May 20, 2005 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for all you guys who don't have the magizine. it's a light turn in the same directiong as the rider is edging. (if a goofy rider is doing a heelside jump, the driver turns right.) to idealy get the effect you have it timed so the wake is at its steepest and the wake hasn't washed yet. and shaggyboarder, the rope is actually supposed to have slack at the end. it's more of a trainging tool than a double up. it's supposed to make it so you haev more time to get balanced out.
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PostPosted: May 20, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read about it then I saw Collin Harrington use it a lot at the TAA for his TS Blind 5s. He actually didnt turn and turn back in the middle of the trick. It works fine if you are just making a slight turn the whole time. It basically makes the wake steeper giving you more upward pop and also gives you less line tension to do handle passes.
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PostPosted: May 20, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good point, only problem is that eventually you hit your own rollers. plus your sending them everywhere, which could really piss other people off.
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

midwest wake, how so? Its a very gentle curve. Not like a U-turn. Its probably like 25 degrees.
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the wake is dumped out just a little it really helps build the wake for a much cleaner and easier pop. I use it all the time, and it helps tons. What u do is turn in towards your rider to pull the wake in then turn slightly so the wake forms an outward curve towards your rider.
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PostPosted: May 26, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

learn stuff the right way, youre only cheating yourselves with methods like this.
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PostPosted: May 26, 2005 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas P., youre right. doing something to give you confidence and prevent injuries is stupid and cheating. lets burn all seatbelts, helmets, and foam pits. and while we're at it lets kick all the kids in the shins who skate on grass or learn to ollie stationary cuz its cheating. hey if it prevents injury or helps me learn something faster wtf cares.
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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gotta' agree, might as well tell all those guys learning to do 360 backflips over 45 foot gaps, 30 feet in the air on 200 pound machines that using a foam pit to save their backs is cheating.
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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, yeah. its designed to help you figure out the specs of the trick before getting pulled over in the air. people who say things like "its cheating" probably havent gotten any serious injuries with the sport, or dont value their body. please thomas p., go out, huck a new trick at your normal speed, get a really bad cuncussion in the water, then get back to us on how wack the dumper and foam pits and grass is...
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PostPosted: May 27, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dumper is gods gift to wakeboarding, well that and the reef calander.... Mr. Green
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