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CANDYBARFILMS123 Criminal

Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 77
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Posted: May 14, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: 93-97 ski nautique for wakeboarding? |
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| i am wondering how a 1993 through 1997 model ski nautique would be for wakeboarding. We would put a tower and ballast in it... how would the wake be? |
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King of the Tigers Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 1416 City: Mesa, Az
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Posted: May 14, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| My friend had a '95 and much preferred riding behind my '88. Even with a lot of ballast in his boat he said his wake wasn't as firm as mine. But mant people feel the old 80s Nautiques throw the best wakes for a used boat out there. I'll admit though that the 90s look a little better and more modern than the 80s SNs. I'm sure you could have a greaty time behind either one regardless. |
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dmb Addict


Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 950 City: The Land Down-Under
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Posted: May 14, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| The OLD school ski nautiques... Before 1992 I think, have the same shape hull as the current Super Air Nautiques.... Something to think about.... |
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
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Posted: May 14, 2005 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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DMB, the SAN hull is "based off of" the Nautique Excel. The Excel was based off of the Barefoot Nautique.(has a pronounced V at the transom and came with a big block 454 motor) The 95-05 Super Sports are Super Air Nautiques. 93 is when they stopped using wood with the exceptions of trim pieces and the swim platform. Pre TSC hull(97) Sport Nautiques I believe have a hull very similar to if not exactly the same as the SAN.
Anyways, yes the old 2001 Nautiques throw one of the best if not THE best wake for the money. However, the question was about 93-97 Ski Nautiques. It will throw a very nice wake weighted down. As I said though in 97 they switched over to the TSC (Total Surface Control) hull. This hull is like a shrunken version of the Air Nautiques (98-02) and will throw a very nice wake.
Honestly It's not going to be holding you back if that's your question. _________________ wakeboards
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Erik Old School Freak

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2830 City: Boston MA, Wolfeboro NH, DelRay FL, Montego Bay, Jamaica
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Posted: May 16, 2005 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| DRAGON88 wrote: | DMB, the SAN hull is "based off of" the Nautique Excel. The Excel was based off of the Barefoot Nautique.(has a pronounced V at the transom and came with a big block 454 motor) The 95-05 Super Sports are Super Air Nautiques. 93 is when they stopped using wood with the exceptions of trim pieces and the swim platform. Pre TSC hull(97) Sport Nautiques I believe have a hull very similar to if not exactly the same as the SAN.
Anyways, yes the old 2001 Nautiques throw one of the best if not THE best wake for the money. However, the question was about 93-97 Ski Nautiques. It will throw a very nice wake weighted down. As I said though in 97 they switched over to the TSC (Total Surface Control) hull. This hull is like a shrunken version of the Air Nautiques (98-02) and will throw a very nice wake.
Honestly It's not going to be holding you back if that's your question. |
This is a good response. I would just add that your money would be better spent on an older Ski Nautique or a Sport Nautique, Master Craft Prostar 205 or larger Supra bowrider. The Ski Nautiques from the 90's were great ski boats... But dont make great wakeboarding boats. |
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-=LoneStar=- Addict


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 751
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Posted: May 16, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| DRAGON88 wrote: | | DMB, the SAN hull is "based off of" the Nautique Excel. |
Say what?! The Excel has hull strakes and a V-shaped transom. It's not even similar to the Super Air. The rest of your post seems pretty accurate though. |
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Erik Old School Freak

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2830 City: Boston MA, Wolfeboro NH, DelRay FL, Montego Bay, Jamaica
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Posted: May 16, 2005 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Say what?! The Excel has hull strakes and a V-shaped transom. It's not even similar to the Super Air. The rest of your post seems pretty accurate though. |
He is right though. The 82-89 Ski Nautique hull became the basis of the barefoot hull...which became the Excel. Then it got a makeover and became the Super Sport/SAN/210. |
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-=LoneStar=- Addict


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 751
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Posted: May 16, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree. In terms of hull evolution, I see it more like this:
SN 2001 -> 90 Ski? (Don't know as much about these) -> 93-97 Sport -> Super Sport/Super Air
These hulls all share the smooth bottoms, keel "bulges", flat transoms, and tapered chines.
Barefoot -> 90-92 Sport -> 91+ Barefoot/Excel (v-drive)
These hulls all share the lifting strakes, v-shaped transoms, and lack of tapered chines.
That's why I was surprised to see it suggested that the Super Air was based off of the Excel hull. The hulls are about as different as two Correct Crafts can get. The only notable similarities between those boats that I can think of would be the open bow and the v-drive.
Also, while the Ski Nautique 2001 and original Barefoot Nautique looked remarkably similar above the water line, the all new Barefoot running surface was vastly different. |
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Rock Toy Outlaw

Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 105 City: San Francisco
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Posted: May 16, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| My '96 Nautique throws a wake that laughs anything from the 80's and most newer Nautiques as well. Not many boats fatter than mid 90's Super Sport Nautiques....best bang for the buck period, regardless of what any of these dudes say. |
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BurntOrangeWake Outlaw

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 173 City: Austin
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Posted: May 19, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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bang for the buck? i paid 2k for my '85 2001 and put in 2k to get it fully operational. what'd you pay for your '96 again?
-Wes _________________ I'm sofa king we todd ed. |
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txnautique Newbie

Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 45
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Posted: May 20, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Just had to put in my two cents, I know for a fact that my 95 ski throws a better wake then just about any boat out there. (bold statement I know!) I have a friend with a new wakesetter a friend with a new mobius, and we ride on several different older boats as well and everybody agrees that PROPERLY WIEGHTED my boat will throw the largest wake. Way bigger then the mobius and about the same as the wakesetter just alot steeper. And as far is it being mushy, that not true at all! The first thing that everybody says after riding my wake is that its the hardest and steepest wake they've ever ridin on. With a tower you'll be golden, my boat does get just a little bit of roll when a large rider cuts too hard, which in turn will mush the wake a little on one side, but its the opposite side your going to be hitting. |
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: May 20, 2005 10:31 am Post subject: |
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I know for a fact that my 95 ski throws a better wake then just about any boat out there.
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Answer honestly here, have you ever ridden behind a Super Air Nautique fully weighted? or a SN2001? or behind a 205 X-Star? Comparing your boat to 2 other boats doesn't make it the better than almost every boat. You're not even comparing the boats known for the best wakes.
Rock Toy, your Super Sport is SLIGHTLY different than a regular ski nautique. And it is almost the exact same hull as the new 210s with just slightly less freeboard. So you can weight down a 210 with more weight. And FYI a SN2001 will rival your wake for less than $10k. How much are those '96 SSs going for now a days? $24-25k? _________________ You have just entered the twilight zone. |
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