T/S POP

[Wakinup]

I'm looking for some tips on how to go bigger on my T/S. Because I spend so much time going big on my heelside and even progressing on tricks. I've avoided my toeside way too much. Looking for some tips.

[J_DOGG]

Avoid HS like you did TS and you will be all set...he he he...
Don't be a HS Johnny....


Don't bend over at the waist and keep the handle in tight off the wake!

[Jim M]

Load your front foot like crazy and open your shoulders as you leave the wake. No Im just joking.

[Wakinup]

J_DOGG, I just have to force myself to do it.


Jim M, I can already feel the pain.

[wakeboarder89]

make sure you ride all the wya up the wake and keep the handle in tight to your hips

[wakeboarder_dude22]

Just keep a really solid body position, it shouldn't really change throughtout the whole trick.

[cwaker4]

keep the handle really low and edge like theres no tommorow

[Catch This Wake]

ya im having the same problem

[Wake_Turner]

When learning heelside everyone talks about progressive edge and standing tall. The exact same principles apply to toeside. The biggest thign i find people have trouble with is doing a true progressive edge toeside. The word progressive means consistantly changing, and so the strength of your edge should be changing throughout the whole cut. Many people who are not comfortable with TS generally start off their cut toeside then about 10 or 15 feet from the wake they stop the progression and just hold the same edge strength through the wake. The problem with this is that once the progression of edge strength stops the line tension begins to decrease because all you are really doing is just coasting into the wake. So my biggest suggestion is to take a smaller maybe 15-20 cut but focus on haveing that edge strength increasing the whole time. There is a large misconception that as long as you dont flatten off and hold your edge that you are doing a progressive edge, this is not true, it has to remain gettin stronger the closer you are to the wake. You can hold your edge at a certain strength without flattening off, so tell me what is progressive about that?, nothing. The point i am stressing is in order to get good pop you need line tension and to get line tension you need a proper PROGRESSIVE edge. Now as for standing tall it is a little different than heelside. when doing it heelside you are already square with the boat so in it's basic principle you are extending you legs while riding up the wake. With toeside it is difficult to ride in with a bent knee approach and straiten your legs to stand tall. It can be done this way but is much harder. It is best to cut in with a tall standing approach. This will save you from having to properly time the extension of your legs while riding up the wake, and contending with the handle at you back hips and the thousand other things you have to deal with when jumping toeside. Instead of trying to stand up from a bent position to tall while riding up the wake approach the wake in a tall position and think about driving your hips straight up to the sky as you are riding up. This will froce you to load you rear foot as you ride up the wake and will promote the proper mechanics of standing tall at the peak of the wake. Overall try to work on a proper progressive edge and using your hips and trying to lift them to the sky at the wake. If these two things are done properly, and providing the rest of the basic mechanics are in tact, you should be able to get plenty of pop on your toeside edge

[pureliquid]

Wake_Turner - Excellent description. Thanks for taking the time to really explain it.

[Catch This Wake]

Wake_Turner, thanks alot that really helps. Now your stuck though. Now I'll be coming to you for all my questions... lol (evil laugh)

[Wake_Turner]

Catch This Wake dude i love helping and teachin people, feel freee to ask whenever

[fergie23]

When you go for a TS jump, do you try to ride in perpendicular to the wake? I am getting good pop but not a lot of distance and trying to figure out if I am going in too parallel to the wake...

[Liquidmx]

A good tip I learned is to lean directly backwards away from the boat almost. Kinda rotate your shoulders like your almost trying to face the other direction while keeping the handle at your hips. It should feel like if you were to loose your edge and slip out, you would fall directly on your chest with your feet facing the boat.

[LFADAM]

fergie23, do the same as your heelside.

I was having problems with this until last weekend. I went to the LF TAA and Kevin Henshaw and Collin Harrington gave me a few pointers. They are pros so you better listen up. I had the cut, (PROGRESSIVE, as wake turner said) but I was backing off at the wake. Take a like 6 foot cut so you can really focus on the progressive edge and riding through the wake. Make sure you straighten your legs. I thought I was but I really was just straightening my upper body. And lastly (this got me all straightened out) keep the handle not near your front hip, but ON it. As close as possible. Then as you ride up the wake sorta push the handle downwards and straighten your legs. Now I got TS pop solid.

Good luck.

[SkyHighCoaster]

Good stuff thanks for the tips guys!

[Jetpilot05]

Also keep your elbows tucked in! One of the things people dont realise is that if you have your elbows out like you're doing the funky chicken or something it will throw you off balance, make the handle pop up and kill some of pop. Stay compact and tall!

[Catch This Wake]

sounds good

[fergie23]

LFADAM, Liquidmx, and Jetpilot05, thanks for the tips - can't wait to get out again and try them!

So, the TS approach should be the same angle toward the wake as HS, right?

[LFADAM]

fergie23, yes.

[hyperrider]

those are some amazing descriptions. best advice i have heard in a long time. i neglect my toe side as well and this summer im really going to go at it and get it down. thanks for helping me out as well

[cdn_ripper]

Put ALL YOUR WEIGHT ON yOR FRONT FOOT A SEC BEFORE YOU HIT THE WAKE!!!....Then YOu will feel tons of pop!......." In your kneee cap "

[mcmarbles]

Wake Turner, does it help on a heelside edge to also concentrate on thrusting your hips upward??

[Wake_Turner]

mcmarbles, on a heelside jump you don't need to be near as deliberate in driving your hips upward. Beacause heelside is such a much more natural position you can acomplish the same thing by standing tall. Standing tall means getting into a very upright position and being ridgid. If you are not ridgid when you are going up the wake the line tension and engery you have buily up will be dissipated into absorbing the wake instead of pushing you into the air. Do not be missunderstood when i say ridgid i do not mean be completly stiff without moving. wakeboarding is a sport so stay athletic in your approach, but hold a strong position.

[mcmarbles]

To get more air on a heelside jump, is it beter to keep the handle in and stand tall in one quick motion or does it help to gradually be pulling the rope in and time it so its close to my waist at the peak of the wake?