Same 'ol.........Air Raley

spicychalupa69 · Criminal Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 72 City: Woodbury

Alright, so heres the deal, ive tried a few of these, probabaly about 4 or 5 and some turn out ok.......some i just eath S#*T.....but i havent landed one yet. I read all these forums about raleys and pay attention to them.....and try to follow evey step, and some have worked and some havent. Tell me what im doing wrong....and help me out if you can

First of all....i hear all these things about just do a regular progressive edge.....edging just a little bit harder with your weight evenly distributed in both feet, edge through the wake and the boat will '' pull you into the air raley postion ''. whats that supposed to mean, it seems to me that every time i try one i have to kick my feet back and my board will then move. how do you get it to suddenly float behing you like so.....quickly. Also. im having trouble pulling back to land. ive gotten close but havent gotten the board down all the way, if you have any other help please let me know. I also read about how your supposed to wait for the boat to give you one last jerk on the line, which instigates your movement of the board down, pulling on the handle towards your knees, to assume the landing position. any ideas? please let me know what you think and any help will be greatly appreciated!!!!!! thanks

afizzle · Criminal Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 74 City: Muskego

When i do my raley i edge as hard as i can. thats what throws your board behind you. ya your gunna have to extend a little but since your edging so hard the force of your edge should throw your board back. make sure u look down the rope or at the tower. this will keep you squared up. as soon as i know im fully extended or as much as im gunna be i pull down as hard as i can to my knees. if u really cant pull it down it might be becuase u have a strechy rope or somthing like that. I suppose what you could do is try to arch your back so wind catches yout top half and you bottum comes down. but idk if that works. Laughing

but for sure when u edge cave as hard as you can. that was the deciding factor for me. i mean as HARD as you can!! good luck. Very Happy

Great Lakes Rider · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 36

You don't need to edge as HARD as you can. Yes, you need a hard edge, but you need to be under control, not "bat-outta-hell" hard.

The whole trick to a Raley is your edge. You have to LEAVE THE WAKE ON EDGE. That is what kicks the board out behind you. Think about it, when you are edging hard you are more or less steering the board back away from the boat on edge. As you leave the wake, the board wants to continue going back away from the boat(as long as you hold the edge all the way through the wake). Now the water isn't there to edge against and it will snap back behind you real fast.

Second, if you are not feeling a hard pull from the boat when you are extended, then you are not doing a Raley, at least not correctly.

Keep your weight evenly distributed while you are edging, 50% on front foot and 50% on back foot, maybe 40% front and 60% back, but more or less even. This will keep you from stargazing after you release from the wake.

Keep your head up and looking at the boat, tower, driver, pylon, whatever. Just don't look down or to either side.

When you feel the hard pull from the boat, pull the handle hard down to your thighs. Your feet will swing back under you. Be sure to pull the handel to your center and not to one hip or the other on landing. This will put you in the proper position to land and keep you from going to krypt.

It will take a few times to get the landing down, either you will pull in too hard and slip out on your butt, or pull in too little and take a nice Face Plant.

Good Luck you'll have it in no time.

Later...

spicychalupa69 · Criminal Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 72 City: Woodbury

Thanks for the input guys, i will definately try all the things you suggested once i go out there again....when it stops raining. so i suppose i was doing most of it right, but i just didnt really know how to make my board fly back.....i always had to kick it back, and once in a while i did loose balance in the air and had a bad "flight". thanks for the tips guys, if there is any other things you wanna help me out with.....haha, feel free to do so Very Happy

LFADAM · Posted: May 12, 2005 2:18 pm Post subject:

Ive been wondering, Im thinking about trying raleys but I dont want to face plant at 22mph with a full edge from 10 feet up out in the flats...could I still do one by getting a 55-60 ft rope and just starting my cut as far out as a normal wake jump and just accelerate harder to get more line tension needed by the raley? ( just to go w2w with it)

Thanks In Advance

Jeff206 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 1002

I haven't tried it but I remember hearing that trying them with a wakeskate is a good way to build up confidence to do it with a board, just let the skate go and pull yourself back in to land feet first and let go, no face plant

spicychalupa69 · Criminal Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 72 City: Woodbury

If you have never tried an air raley before and youre afraid to faceplant.....i can almost completely guarantee that you will not faceplant. After you get the pop, and perhps the full extension you will turn to your side and go krypt.....you will land on your back or on your side. To prevent this from happening, when doing your cut make sure that you have your weight distributed 50-50, or even 40-50 might be ok. make sure you cut all the way through the wake also and when you get up and fully extended, make sure that you are looking at the tower or the boat. Make sure that your shoulders are square and dont dip one lower than the other. I have never tried it on a wakeskate, but i heard that its easier to learn that way....but i already started learning with a wakeboad, might as well keep goin. As i said before, i have never landed one, but i have gotten fully extended, and pulled down more than 3/4 of the way down, and then ate s#@t. Just a tip comin from one who has already faceplanted at 22 mph before....its not that bad, and also make sure you pull the handle down to your knees after the extension.

Later

Jeff206 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 1002

40-50 huh, so where is the other 10? Laughing

jason_ssr · Posted: May 13, 2005 5:32 am Post subject:

Ive been teaching raleys to people for almost 10 years, and have posted a few tips on here before, so this probably isnt new.

You need to focus on fundamental body position when edging. As riding has evolved, riders have learned to build decent load while standing more upright and squated like a Watson or Byerly style. However, while standing more upright, you will not generate as much load and will not get the whip your looking for from an oldschool trick like the raley. When you cut out, think about the body position you will use on the cut in. Think about shoulders back, chest out, back straight, legs slightly bent, and lean back. You body should be leaning back behind the board significantly. Use a progressive edge in this position, and when you leave the wake it WILL whip back. Also as you hit the wake, make sure your arms are straight. As you leave the wake, you handle position you be high and out in from of your face. Focus on the water out in front of the boat. Focusing on the boat works, but sometimes misguides you as to how high you are and messes up the timing of the landing. Focus on the water way ahead of you so you not only stay straight, but know how high you are as well. Bring the handle in low and hard and set it down. Piece of cake.