me too can't do wk 2 wk

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

I am having the same problem. I have been trying since last year to clear the wake. I can do all my one wake 180's but I cannot get the last3 feet to the other wake. I have tried going way out and coming in with more progressive and standing at the wake but I come up short. Sometimes I get scared of the wake cause it feels like a brick wall when I hit it. I want SO BADLY to clear it but can't. I have a Tige and also ride behind a friends Nautique so we have great boats. Please help me get across the wake Crying or Very sad

Bowen · Posted: Apr 11, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:

rnopr8, first off, you need to understand that the boat does not make the wakeboarder. Second, try pulling the rope in until you get used to it. There is nothing wrong with bringing the rope in a bit.

Assuming you are doing what you say you are, you should be clearing it anyway, but for now, bring the rope in, and cut out farther, then gun it into the wake, remember to stand tall.

cwaker4 · Soul Rider Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 465 City: Gilroy

take a massive cut and edge all the way throught the wake, and stand tall at the top. you should try shortening the rope like 5 feet so the wake is narrower, get comfortable clearing the wake and going out to the flats at that length then let the rope back out and you should be able to clear the wake in a couple of tries.

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

thanks Bowen. I'll bring the rope in to 55 and see if that helps. I think I need to get better at keeping the rope to my hips and being more consistent with my edge through the wake. Maybe if I stop trying so hard......... Laughing

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

thanks waker4...you and Bowen suggested the same thing. Makes sense. I will want to clear it more too if my alternate option is landing in the rooster tail!!!! Hey...what lakes do you ride at near Gilroy?

kyleh · Newbie Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1

You may also want to check what kind of line you are using. If it is a cheaper line, then it will probably have more stretch, which will absorb when you cut into the wake, and hence ruin your pop. Some of the higher quality lines have a lot less stretch, and hence you can achieve more pop of the wake. I don't know what your line is like, but I thought I would throw that at you just in case.

Later!

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

thanks...I have a wakeboard line that doesn't stretch....yellow & black proline. I have new transit bindings and last years absolute platinum board. Equipment is good...just operator stinks Mr. Green

colefooter · Posted: Apr 12, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject:

rnopr8, nothing wrong at all with riding a shorter line. I have been wakeboarding for a long time and i still ride at 55 when trying new stuff so i don't clip the wake. Also my boat puts out a WIDE wake Confused

You will be clearing the wake in no time, just keep practicing, and with the little shorter line you will be amazed on how much easier it is. Then go for that w2w 180! Also, don't forget about your ts edge!

-=LoneStar=- · Addict Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 751

Suggestions:

Shorten the rope to start (already mentioned).
Stand up at the wake (already mentioned)
Edge through the wake (already mentioned)
Pull the rope down to your hips (already mentioned) - Note: This is KEY to successfully executing number 3. If you edge through the wake with the rope anywhere else, the sudden release of the pressure down by your feet when your edge leaves the wake will allow the rope to pull you off-axis and you will crash. If you think this will happen, you will be timid and will not hold your edge. Don't worry though; if you are strongly holding the rope at your hips, it can only pull you through the air without rotating you, since the pull is straight through your center of mass.
Empty all the ballast so you're not scared of the wake. The technique will be the same.
Take a shorter and harder approach to the wake (from only 8 feet out or so). This will cause you to have a slower speed going toward the wake but you'll have tension built up when you hit it. That way, you can get the correct "pop" without charging at the wake at ridiculous speeds. Once you get that pop, you will "float" weightlessly across the wakes. THAT'S what you really want anyway...hangtime. Horizontal speed is for slalom skiers. Anyway, once you get it down at a slow pace and short rope, charging the wake on a long rope with the same technique will launch you out into the flats with ridiculous air (if you are strong enough and can get used to executing all of the motions at a faster pace).
Make sure not to try to pull your legs up when you jump. In fact, try to keep your legs straight until the middle of your jump while you are learning. I see lots of people pulling their legs up too early and absorbing a lot of their pop.
Make sure the pressure on your feet is balanced. It's OK to have a little bit of a rearward bias but try not to go in too tail heavy and pop up the nose of the board. This can also absorb some of the pop.

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

Lone Star...right on.....#4 is exactly what has been happening. As I read #4 I realized everything I am feeling and thinking is exactly what you mention. Thanks for the advice and help. And thanks to everyone else for taking the time to help. I really appreciate it.

rn

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

lone star....from Texas by any chance? Hey...if I take it closer to the wake without weight in the ballasts, will I still get across the wake? Seems like you need lots of speed and a long approach to get across.

r n

cookiemonster420nj · Criminal Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 98 City: midland park

Nope, alot of it's tension in the line. The thing that helped me most with w2w jumps was #4 above basically. Keeping arms taught, and riding thru the wake..then drawing knees up for more lift. Don't give up man, it's all mechanics...the guys who taught me just learned how to do w2w and they had been doing it for a few years as well.
And I don't feel a big cut is needed at all, I usually start about 10 feet outside wake and just lean back and cut in keeping the tension right thru the wake. Keeping that line tension thru the wake is essential.

roundbaywakeboard · Posted: Apr 13, 2005 2:41 pm Post subject:

Progressive edge.

Enzoborder230 · Posted: Apr 13, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject:

dude, yd you get all this crap, and you cant get w2w

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

ar230...was there ever a point in your wakeboarding learning when YOU couldn't get wake 2 wake, or were you born doing it. AND I am not a dude....would you talk to your mother like that?? This is a FUN sport and FUN for ALL ages and levels. I appreciate the class and respect all the other responders gave not only to me, but also to the sport of wakeboarding. Ride on, DUDE. Cool

WakeChikNikki · Soul Rider Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 264 City: Sacramento

rnopr8, dont worry about ar230, hes 14 Wink

by the way i can teach someone how to jump a wake perfectly but i cant do it myself yet. I know how to do it, but its just i have a hard time keeping the handle at my hips! Its hard to do, and plus i cut my head open going wake to wake before so even though i now wear a helmet i think subconsciously i still get a little scared. It will come for both of us, we just need to practice practice practice!

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

Hey Nikki, Thanks for the encouragement. I wear a helmet too. Yea, I saw he was only 14...tryin to be tough guy. I will e-mail you cause I want to ask you about Folsom. Ride on...RN

roundbaywakeboard · Posted: Apr 15, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject:

Word, rnopr8, We need more courteous riders like yourself.

DadKid · Outlaw Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 140 City: Ottawa

Thanks for the question rnopr8 and the list of suggestions LoneStar. Saved it for when the ice thaws. Ignore the puerile comment.

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

DadKid.....The comment is already history Smile

YES Thanks for all the great advice everyone. I almost got into the flats today. Melissa Marquardt was at our girls ride day and she got me landing on top of the other wake. I edged a little harder, more progressive instead of hard all the way, and kept that edge all the way until I straighten up....It worked!! Imagine that!!!! It's a miracle!!!! Razz

I was so stoked. I can't walk tonight but I got across!! Have a great ride everyone!!!!

DadKid...I moved from San Diego to Calgary and back again....for a good reason....weather!!! Hope you didn't have as much snow as we had rain...

Ride on.....RN

WakeBoarder44 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1107

jééééééééé!!!
congrats!

keep cool
Cool

nickdakoolkat · Posted: Apr 18, 2005 8:18 am Post subject:

you can't be scared of falling.....just like in baseball you can't be afraid of the ball.........the fact is even the best of the best crash (usually the hardest) there is no way around it.......second, i was having the same problems a whiule back and i had my somebody video tape me and i then compared everything i was doing to a bunch of different riders and i was able to see my fault....i was doing pretty much everything right except i wasn't getting nearly as low as i thought i was when i edge.....i then applied what i learned and with ease i cleared the wake on my first try.....good luck [/quote]

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

good point...thanks. I just got a trakker so I can do more video taping. This old body just doesn't bounce back like it used to when I fall...just get tired of hurting for a few days after a fall Rolling Eyes

But you are right. It is amazing what our fears keep us from accomplishing. Thanks

Krown77 · Outlaw Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 112 City: Haliburton

Try standing up a bit more vertical when u hit the wake so you get more pop off of it, cut in a bit harder, or like someone else said empty the ballast a bit so the wake doesnt shoot you straight up. goood luck and keep trying

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

thanks 77...I am getting closer. I was flattening out at the wake and bending over when I popped up. I landed on top of the other wake today. I just have to remember to keep that edge all the way through the wake. Very Happy

James_chpl · Newbie Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 2 City: Abu Dhabi

Yo dude, congrats on makin da wake 2 wake, wish i could do that...well its kinda hard to find help with wake tricks here in da mid east, but if u got ne other tips on how i can get tha wake 2 wake it would be appreciated...tommorow im gonna go out and see if the line tension will make a difference , inshala (God willing) ill get it... ride on Cool

rnopr8 · Newbie Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 43 City: Murrieta

roundbaywakeboard said progressive edge and he was right. Keep the progressive edge all the way through the wake, pop up, pull the line in to your hip and you will have it. Good luck man.....ride on