HOW DO YOU DO RALLY'S? PLZZ HELP ME OUT!!!

best_in_midwest · Newbie Joined: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 13 City: Kenosha

i like how this forum started off as a kid wanting to learn raleys and ended up in an ego match up. just go out there and ride any way you can. it's all gravy as long as youre doing it and not bithing, jsut having fun so if anyone want to learn how to do a raley here it is.
If you don't have a wakeskate or you wanna learn with your board on your feet (wakeskate is a good way to learn cuz it hurts less) ( hurting less = more tries = learnign trick faster)
anyways...

This may seem like alot at first but it becomes almost natural and you will be suprised how relatively easy this trick is.
-shorten the rope
-slow down the speed
-put on a wetsuit and a thick life jacket, helmet if you have one ( anything that will boost your confidence)
the raley is not hard it's really a mental trick you just have to commit.
-make sure you can get really nice pop off the wake first ( with the board almost perpendicular to the wake)
-make sure when you approach the wake your arms are straight and you are sitting way back and just do a regular jump for now
-do that like 3 times in a row til you get used to the pop
go out look at the wake start cutting, look at the boat and get your shoulders square with the boat
-before you hit the bottom of the wake take a quick look at it again (it'll be the last time you see it for a while)
you hit the wake just like before with your arms extended and sitting way back
as you hit the wake pop straight up so you are extended as you leave the wake
this will cause your feet to fly back ( don't pop forward this will create too much slack and slack = crash)
you might have to kick your feet back just a LITTLE at first
-as you leave the wake look at the tower of the boat (this will keep you from flipping over)
-when you reach your peak you will feel a massive pull on the rope. this means youre comming down.
-push the handle down toward your stomach and flex your abs
you're gonna have plenty of time to spot your landing.
-land it with your board under your feet and give yourself a pat on the back
-hopefully you got your first one on camera.

hey if you don;t get it the first day out trying take a brake and try it again another day. you will probably get it on the first time then.
also if they give you a wild card trick in a tourney and you hae tried raleys and never landed one. throw one there. all the excitement will give you skill you never though you had.

hope this helps someone. if you havn't noticed this is my favorite trick

Jama · Soul Rider Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 476 City: Knoxville

What do you guys mean when you say use a wakeskate? Do you mean do the motion and let the wakeskate drop?

Blindside_137 · Posted: Sep 18, 2004 4:30 am Post subject:

lol, this is amusing.... andANTIHER0371, still hasnt posted lol

LFADAM · Posted: Sep 18, 2004 5:19 pm Post subject:

Jama, yea. You do a raley and the wakeskate flies behind you pull back down and you let go of the rope and prepare for impact

Nathan Newman · Addict Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor

best in midwest, that was an excellent description on the raley

YELLOWMOBIUS · Addict Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 776 City: da region

cuttinbutta 1 and 2 do me a favor stfu

roundbaywakeboard · Posted: Oct 11, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject:

Haha, I got my raleys down flat, but this hot boat saw my riding and invited me out for a quick ride, so i agreed and they were like CAN YOU DO THE SUPERMAN! I wasn't fully warmed up yet but i went for it....And thanks for the collapsed lung, hot chicks..thanks.

Jensen · Posted: Oct 13, 2004 10:36 am Post subject:

wow, getting a lil out of control here. don't try a raley. Instead, go for a s-bend. Much easier. Cool

colefooter · Posted: Oct 13, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject:

wakeboardertj, yeah or strait for the 313, much easier landing id say Laughing

Hackorida · Posted: Dec 29, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject:

go jump on a tramp and get them on that then take wat yu do on the tramp out onto the water...

Peace

wakerider1223 · Posted: Jan 05, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject:

wayner

CaM2816 · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 343 City: Seattle

"Lord I'd like to apologize"......

-Larry the Cable Guy-

zcashion · Criminal Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 70 City: Lake Lure

haha you guys are jerks...that poor kid just wanted to know how to do a raley...I think we should correct him politely and keep him enthused about wakeboarding...the sport will never grow if everybody's an ass because a kid can't spell raley can't we all just get along? Very Happy

matt1808 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 1981

who said we want it to grow? butter is hard enough to find Twisted Evil

Skicross · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 301

this thread is hilarious Laughing

PwR-HoUsE · Posted: Feb 11, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject:

go_ride17- couldnt of said it better myself.

Jumpin Jack Flash · Newbie Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 49 City: H TOWN

I can't do raleys/rallies/ralys/rollies what ever haha. But I do know they're hard and can injure people pretty easily. In my opinion you should know some spins, and definately 4 or 5 inverts at LEAST. The more tricks you know the better obvisously. This trick is more about your attitude and guts than anything. If your trying this trick and for a split second think "I can't stick this'' your done.

This is just my opinion from my experiences, hope I didn't offend anybody (It just seems a bit tense in here hahaha)

Also, ever watch people who can really do raley based tricks pretty well? They take them HUGE, and usually out into the flats. I'm sure the height and length help do the move correctly (Plus it looks sick!) So unless you can go THAT BIG, I'd wait just a little while longer. (Not saying you HAVE to go that big, but im sure height and length help on this trick) I know that when I was trying them I wished I could have had a little more height and length in the air.

Good luck, let us know when you stick one. PEACE

Alex_GT_ · Newbie Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 3

hi all

Mr. Mutt · Posted: Feb 17, 2005 12:02 pm Post subject:

Railey, ralee, ralley, raole, rayall-ee, uh...are there any more ways to spell it?

According to "The Book" (can you tell I love that DVD BTW?), Front flips, back rolls and raleys all have the same "load and release". If you've seen The Book, or detention, all the "Air" tricks (without a wake) show you extreme versions of load and release. Basically you pull the rope with your body (not arms) and edge out a little. That is the "load". The "release" is letting the body go back to the normal position. The harder you do this, the more energy you'll feel pulling your chest forward and pushing your board back.

Now, if you do that into a W2W, you are in position to do either a back roll (backwards cartwheel), front flip (forward cartwheel), or a raley (let your butt go back without cartwheeling either direction). So if you can REALLY do a back roll, you already know the release you need to launch a raley, just don't roll it and let it release all the way away from you.

138jobe · Outlaw Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 174 City: Calgary

I have never seen such an immature thread...you should all be ashamed

afizzle · Criminal Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 74 City: Muskego

idk about anyone els but idk if you guys know what your talking about. I can do "supermans" Very Happy

easily and i might be able to give you some pointers. some resopnses are right in the sense that you should keep your arms out becuase then you can pull it down easier. Personally i dont think what the last guy said is right. i dont "load" and "realease" (sounds like a porn flick) the same way i do on a "rayole" Very Happy

i take the hardest edge at the wake i possible can. dont try to pop super hard just try a little becuase if you do you will go all messed up. make sure that you dont try and throw this trick off the wake otherwise you will do whats known as "star gazing" this is where the board goes all wierd in the air. if you try and thorw it off the top of the wake only one foot will go back and then your body will twist and you will obviously fall. just make sure you take the hardest edge possible and let your body flow out behind you. while in the air i suggest looking at the boat becuase if you dont you might start spinning and will do a krypt. make sure you pull the rope to your knees, but more to you left knee so you dont pull the board straight down and then catch your edge and you hit the water and knock yourself out. good luck have fun and dont be scared.

afizzle · Criminal Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 74 City: Muskego

also make sure you hold your edge through the entire wake or els your leggs wont fly back.

wakechick79 · Outlaw Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 228 City: Virginia Beach

Some people can't spell. Also, sometimes when you are writing a reply, you accidentally misspell something and don't catch it before you send it-I don't think we should be beating anyone up for their spelling skills (unless they are intentionally spelling things wrong to be a dumby wumby). I do agree, however, that if you want to learn more about the sport, then you should know the correct names of the tricks.

jason2454 · Outlaw Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 240 City: austin

[quote="Raidersftball181"][quote="ANTIHER0371"]holy crap people, i wakeboard for fun, i dont care about all these gay names, yea I can 360 the wake toe and heal side, and its a backflip...!!![/quote]

You have the benefit of singing on to a FREE website, and getting FREE advice from people who actually know what they're talking about. So when you post a disjointed, mispelled question referring to tricks using improper terminology it is harder for people to help you. By surfing this site for 15 minutes you could have easily figured out the correct names of these tricks, and gotten much more constructive responses. Since you're too lazy to do that, you got constructive responses about terminology that will help you recieve better advice. However the responses you will get after your last post will contain only constructive critisism about how much of a TOOL you are... so good luck with the "ralee" and maybe when you have some respect for the sport you will get respect in return[/quote]

Sorry but anyone who knows anything about the sport knows what he was talking about. Why cant you just answer his question instead of mocking his terminology?? Now you people rudely changed the thread topic to mocking the guys terminology... Anyways.. when i first started trying raley's i kept flipping the board over my head forwards front flipping it almost. Im thinking of hooking a rope up to my trampoline and giving it a go before i try it again.

blairpoelman · Addict Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 595

Ok, here's some advice.

I learned rally's on a trampoline. If you can do them on a trampoline, you can do them on the water.

The secret to this trick is to keep trying. It's not too bad as long as you keep looking up and keep both hands on the handle. If you let go with one hand, you're done.

The first part of the trick is a matter of courage, very little skill involved with actually throwing the trick. Charge the wake with a super hard cut (progressive edge) - when you hit the wake, boost off, throw your board back, put your arms up and look straight up the rope to the tower. If you look at the water, you're done.

Bringing the board back down and landing, however is a matter of timing. The instant your body goes to full extension, you'll fell a distinct tug on the rope. At that point, give the handle a tug back and pull your elbows down to your sides, start spotting your landing.

Because you're going so fast and usually coming down from pretty high, if you don't suck up the landing upon impact you will bounce and your board will slip out and you'll land on your back. Try to land soft, or even gently. If you need to, you can really suck up the landing and you'll be in almost a croutching position after touchdown. Eventually, you'l'l be able to land standing straight up.

One important safety measure to take is to make sure you're feet will not come out of the bindings when you extend. If one foot comes out, ditch the rope and land on your head or back - it's better than landing on the board with one foot in the bindings attached to a newly broken femer.

After you land it, you're so far out, so do a quick frontside 180, and then charge the wake for a cab 5 to face plant.
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rekyn1 · Criminal Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 59 City: Reston

Only read this if you want advice on the raley, dont want to waste anyone else's time with the length of this post.

It is one of the easiest tricks out there, no doubt. All it takes is commitment and big sack. When you do it right, you'll know it right away (basically because you wont flail in the air and die on impact). Once i figured it out for the first time, i just had to figure out the landing, as this was the highest trick i could do at the time. small depth perception adjustment.

anyhow - a common misconception is that you must start your cut as far away from the wake as possible, and this couldnt be further from the truth. having a long cut just gives you time to screw it up. you only need to be far enough away from the wake to get into a full cut. you can judge this by when the board is pointing directly at the wake, not at an angle. you will be pushing hard on both heals, even on both feet (aka 50/50). when you start to cut in, slowly roll from your toes to your heels, and start increasing the speed of your cut as you approach the wake (progressive edge), so that your fastest point in your cut is right at the start of the wake.

now this part will be timing on your end, but as my board reaches the wake, i start shifting from leaning back hard, to leaning forward into a more neutral position.
the whole point of this trick is that you want to let your feet rise over your head (which stays basically the same height as a normal wake jump). I always think of reaching and looking directly at the tower. this will keep you square so that you dont stargaze and end up on your back. do not take your eyes off of the tower/boat until you reach full extension and get the pull described in blairepoleman's post above. you should not have to pull down hard to get the board back underneath you, it should be totally natural. as i said earlier, my biggest problem was landing- i pulled down too hard 3 times, which put me on my heels/butt.

now that i went through the whole thing, i'll leave an abbreviated summary to remember when you're on the water:
15 ft out, strong progressive cut to the wake, reach/look toward the tower, pull down after full extension.

and best of luck to you, hope my novel helps someone.

a hairy nun · Newbie Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 11 City: Bigfork

i agree w/ u but ive never done one before

a hairy nun · Newbie Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 11 City: Bigfork

wakeboardertj, hey whats a s bend

rekyn1 · Criminal Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 59 City: Reston

s bend = raley with a blind 360 while you're fully extended. aka a stretched out barrel roll. they hurt alot if you screw up. haha.

cwaker4 · Soul Rider Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 465 City: Gilroy

[quote="ANTIHER0371"]holy crap people, i wakeboard for fun, i dont care about all these gay names, yea I can 360 the wake toe and heal side, and its a backflip... look what your doing, it looks like a backflip on the boat behotch... Some people need to get aa life and not care, about braging about crazy names for tricks... get ur lazy ass off the tv, and go wakeboard... sry raylee... just help me out, and tell me how you guys do it!!![/quote]- dude get off your high horse, and learn the lingo before you get flamed even more. oh yeah one more thing- "get ur lazy ass off the tv"- is this implying that my lazy ass is actually on top of the television? please clarify.

matt1808 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 1981

just let this thread die. I doubt he even reads this thread anymore.

AndyAndy · Addict Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 660 City: cutchogue

Ive been trying to get the balls to try one, and worked for a while on a trampoline but just couldnt get it. Ive been watching videos of kids doing them on the water and on trampolines and what ive noticed is on the trampoiline the person is usually leaning back (feet in front of head) on the bounce before they throw the trick.

Amy · Criminal Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 92 City: State College

Colefooter,
Love the headbanging muppet!
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