HELP: Pro-Americans!

Shawn Madison · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 8:19 pm Post subject: HELP: Pro-Americans!

I need everyone's help that wants to help me! My local TV station (WBIR Channel 10-Knoxville, TN) has been airing about 300 protestors non-stop for the past couple of days. I respect their opinion that they do not agree with the war, but the fact is-it is going on and is not going to stop for them.

Well, my point is: I am from a small town where I have counted 17 people who are from this area or associated with this area that are over serving in this conflict. My mother called me today and was very distraught about the fact the local news kept showing the war protestors and saying that we are killers, etc... I would like to elicit the support of my fellow wakeboarders to email my TV station and ask them to quit giving the protestors so much air time! I mean-they are using a media source to express their opinion so I want to use one to express mine!

To those who do not agree, I apologize for taking up your time!

Here are the email addresses for WBIR channel 10. Please copy them and CC to all of the editors listed.
[a href="mailto: sallen@wbir.gannett.com, manager@wbir.com, feedback@wbir.com, liveatfive@wbir.com"]WBIR Channel 10[/a]

Thanks in Advance to those who help me! I will try and return the favor someday! Smile

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

How are they not Pro Americans, Anti-war does not mean Anti -American

Shawn Madison · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 8:24 pm Post subject:

Todd Armstrong, Well, then-I am not talking about you!

Well, the majority of America supports the president and our troops and I see America as an entity-so anti-war is a minority and does not accurately represent the wishes of America as a whole. So, technically their view is Anti-American! Mad

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

I sent an email, but you probably wouldn't agree with it. I find that "Pro-American" title very wrong. It's your opinion if you think I hate America, but you are sadly mistaken. Evil or Very Mad

Shawn Madison · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 8:37 pm Post subject:

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

Turk that was an incorrect title and and your statement incredably closeminded. So if you are not with the Majority you are wrong? You would fit in nicely with Saddam's leadership and lack of a minority groups rights. I feel your opinon is incredably anti-american in thinking that if a person does not follow the majority they must be against it. Public free speech is what makes us different for places like Iraqi were the protesters would be killed for expessing opisision to the majority

Shawn Madison · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 8:47 pm Post subject:

Well, I do not condone war: But sometimes it is a necessary evil. Without it: we still may have slavery, the Jewish Faith would probably not exist, Freedom would just be an ideal and finally you would not be able to express your opinion!

I quess I am close minded: I agree with the majority of America and feel that the world has taken a new turn and the US has to be proactive in its quest to protect itself. My point was that the protestors could better utilize their time writing soldiers with no families, families of fallen soldiers, etc.

To support my title: Check Webster's Dictionary <u>Pro</u>2 : the affirmative side or one holding it.

Hence Pro-American! Cool

forwaken · Addict Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 635 City: Turlock, CA

The thing I think Turk is trying to get across, is the fact that yes you can be anti-war, but now that we have soldiers, american soldiers, scared and risking their lives for us, it is a great injustice to protest. It is something they can not change, nor could 10000 protestors on the white house steps. It is a stab in the back and a vote of no confidence to the soldiers. Put yourself in their position that they can not change. I am sure many of them might not like this war, but they can not protest it. Our media continues to show demonstrations and protestest that does get to the soldiers, much the way the girl turning her back to the anthem did. Let me know if I am close to what you feel Turk. If I am, I feel much the same way. I am personally apposed to the war, but I am also apposed to demonstrating publicly against it now that their are many servicemen fighting for the country I live in.

Chad

Shawn Madison · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 8:52 pm Post subject:

forwaken, Chad-yes you did hit more on what I was trying to express. Maybe my title was not the perfect fit, but it does fit! The point is: Anti-war protestors are not helping, but only hurting those who are giving so much! I could more understand their quest if it were a few weeks ago or a couple of months.

ohsix · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 8:53 pm Post subject:

good title turk. i couldn't think of a more appropriate title myself.

pro-American means that you support America's decision to go to war. or at least in this case that's what it means. i dont think it was intended to be an attack on people who don't support the war. don't be so paranoid.

i'll send them an e-mail. i agree that everyone has the right to protest but showing them on t.v. constantly does not portray an accurate point of view of the majority of Americans. it's also a morale downer.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Yeah, you are DEFINATELY being "anti-american" with your posts.

Because I have one view that differs with much of America, I guess I am "anti-american," even if I love my country and believe it is the greatest nation on this planet. Wow.

That definition stuff is BS! You are pro- or anti-war if you support or don't support it. That has nothing to do with how American you are. You are just twisting the definition. I'm assuming you voted for Bush in the 2000 Presidential Election. Because he didn't receive the most votes, I declare that you are an Anti-American. In fact, I bet by that definition, every single American is an Anti-American. No one is always in the majority.

I see what you are saying, but don't throw out insults!

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

Forwakin you make a great point in you last sentace and I believe alot of American's are saying what you are. I feel the lack of morale for our troops is disgusting, but I don't feel strongly on either side. Part of me says this action is needed to put down a dictator who rules with out mercy and does have so terrorist ties. On the other hand what is a mad man going to do when he is backed into a corner? The people you see on TV feel very strong that we should not be on the offenisve and Bush is wrong, not America as a whole. Respect them for there willingness to comment to one side of this debate, wether it is the right or wrong side. However unlike me, you and I would say the vast majority of America who are on th efence in one way or another.

I pray to God that this is over quickly and quietly with no major problems adn who ever takes the government over in Iraqi is alot better than Saddams rule

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

A more appropriate title - HELP: War Supporters!

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

Jello great point about how the MAJORITY elected Gore

ohsix · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 9:01 pm Post subject:

jello- just because you aren't pro something doesnt mean you are anti. just like the people opposed to pro-life dont call theirselves anti-life. they call theirselves pro-choice.

ohsix · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject:

jello and todd- you need to research the electoral college. it doesn't matter who gets the most votes from the population. the electoral college elects the president.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Apparently Turk thinks so.

Shawn Madison · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 9:06 pm Post subject:

wes reeves, Thank You Wes!

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

We're not debating the electoral college, we're saying that in the POPULAR vote, Bush lost and Bush voters are Anti-Americans. It's pretty simple.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

I know how it works. It was just a point that I thought was funny how the majority of America in 2000i voted Pro-Gore so this country must be Anti-Bush according to some peoples opinons. So Gore won the popular vote so having Bush as President must be wrong.

ohsix · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 9:08 pm Post subject:

no problem

furitive_revolution · Outlaw Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 127 City: Oshawa

man, you guys rippin turk should really lay off. dude said his opinion. like protesting now is gonna help even slightly. i am a canadian and back the american decision. even if i didn't i'd still respect that there are people out there fightin whether they agree or not! these people are putting their lives on the line for you the american people which is also like sayin for us as well since our army and crap is pretty lame! to everyone that has a close friend or family member fightin the war my heart goes out to you! also be very proud of this person for helping protect the american people!
peace
Brett

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

If I find an opinion insulting, I will respond. I do support our troops, and don't want any harm to come to them which is one reason I disagree with war, but I do think that we didn't take the right approach in this war.

So do you think that by being a citizen of Canada, that you are not American as well? You do live in N. America!

BIGMAC · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 10:13 pm Post subject:

I say war on protesters!!! They make me cringe(sp)!!!!!!!!!!! Evil or Very Mad

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RUSSIAN · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 10:17 pm Post subject:

what?????????????

BIGMAC · Posted: Mar 20, 2003 10:26 pm Post subject:

Message sent in an educated manner!!

forwaken · Addict Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 635 City: Turlock, CA

Jello-
Are you apposed to protesting the war publicly now that it has begun? If so, explain to me logically how you could publicly protest the war yet at the same time, support our soldier who are fighting? The word oxymoron comes to mind.

Chad

Seth Martin · Moderator Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 891 City: Orlando

I didn't see anywhere in Turk's original message where he was trying to get the protestors completely off the air. If anything it sounded like he wanted his news station to report on both the people that are against the war and the people that are for the war.

As Stated · Criminal Joined: 04 Mar 2003 Posts: 89

Bomb them so bad that rebuilding Iraq will not even be an option. Come on, lets go. Whos going to make the first comment you are dumb, blah, blah, blah...

Bo Coppinger · Posted: Mar 21, 2003 8:56 am Post subject:

just my .02

ohsix · Posted: Mar 21, 2003 9:16 am Post subject:

i e-mailed them and they just sent me this e-mail in return.

Thanks for your e-mail, we value your opinion. But we also have a responsibility to show diverse opinions, one of the things we are fighting for is the right for each of us to be able to voice our opinions whether or not we agree with the government. The right to free speech is what our country was founded on and it's important for us to show both sides. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts with us.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lee [mailto:manager@wbir.com]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:42 AM
To: Nichols, Margie
Subject: FW: war protestors

-----Original Message-----
From: Wsrvs@aol.com [mailto:Wsrvs@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:37 AM
To: sallen@wbir.gannett.com; manager@wbir.com; feedback@wbir.com; liveatfive@wbir.com
Subject: war protestors

I'm writing to complain about your stations excessive coverage of the war protestors. While everyone has their right to express their opinion and your station has the right to freedom of the press, it is very discouraging for families of soldiers to have to watch these protests constantly.
I understand that coverage of the protests may be necessary, but I feel a minimal amount would be best for the local families. I'm sure we all see plenty of protest on the national level.

Andy · Newbie Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 43 City: Syracuse,NY

Jello, how do you think we should have approached this war? If we dont take this guy out now he could use his weapons on us in the future. I mean he has already used weapons on other countries that he said he didnt have. I dont want troops to die either but Sadam is a clear threat to us and other countries. I dont understand anti war protesters. They talk about how they want peace but peace at what cost? We tried to resolve this issue peacefully but Sadam wouldent comply.Are we just going to let this guy who supports terrerism have these weapons. I am not comfterble with that, are you? I think that people who dont support war dont really understand what is going on.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

I think people who support this war don't really understand what is going on. Alot of people only believe what is told to them or what the boob tube tells them. Before you support something, and form an opinion do some reseach on your own.

Ignorance is not bliss

ohsix · Posted: Mar 21, 2003 11:33 am Post subject:

Seth Martin · Moderator Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 891 City: Orlando

The more research I do, the more i can't believe it has taken this long for action.