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Neognosis
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I agree. But the fault is with the pilot, not the people who brought the lawsuit.
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ohsix
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sounds like the pilot did it on purpose though.
i would have enjoyed that ride though. i have some friends with planes and we'll IFR into clouds just so we can go through the turbulence sometimes. there's nothin like those drop where you bang your head on the cieling of the plane though. |
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OttoNP
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I don't think anything but turbulence could cause a drop that quick, even if the pilot jammed the stick forward and put the plane in a dive, which I doubt he did. Plus, there is a pilot and co-pilot on the sticks and most of the stuff they do is recorded, so if the pilot did dive the plane it would be easy to prove. The passengers lawyers are just hoping to fool an ignorant jury.
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Neognosis
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Right, it's just evil lawyers and stupid juries. It couldn't possibly be that the pilot was incompetant and should have been able to avoid the turbulance.
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OttoNP
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| Posted: Mar 17, 2003 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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because you can see turbulance...also, why not sue the pilot instead of the airline?
The airline hired a licensed and trained pilot and co-pilot. They took all reasonable measures that every airline takes, sometimes things will happen and people should just deal, as long as they are reasonable, like you know, turbulance on an airplane.
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ohsix
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| i'm not agreeing that the people should sue but i think the pilot did something on purpose because the FAA yanked his liscence and he resigned. |
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MobyRick
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I just have to laugh because they were offered $50,000.00 and turned it down. Now they only get $5,000.00    |
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Dragonlady8
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My exact sentiments Moby~ Here is clear proof that these people where in it strictly to "extort" more money from the Corporation. Why go after the pilot when the Organization he works for has more money? So instead of accepting 50k, they got greedy and ended up with only 5k. Hehehehehe
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Mike
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I would have took the 50k and bought myself a new boat!! Who agrees with me??
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DRAGON88
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Phantom, your sig shure works in this case huh?
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pedro
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I would have just needed $50 to cover my dry-cleaning bill
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Neognosis
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Some of you guys are making a lot of assumptions about things you don't know about. Maybe the people didn't accept a 50K settlement because it was more important to get the airline to admit that their pilot was at fault.
I don't know about turbulance, but I would be willing to bet that turbulance so severe as to cause a 4000 foot drop should have been detected. That seems to be what a jury, who has heard the WHOLE case, has decided.
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"They took all reasonable measures that every airline takes, sometimes things will happen and people should just deal, as long as they are reasonable, like you know, turbulance on an airplane. "
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So you know that the airline took all reasonable measures? But a jury obviously decided that the pilot did NOT take all reasonable measures to avoid an unsafe situation. Why do you think that you know more about this case than a jury who heard both sides? Why do you just assume that it's a frivilous case?
Why go after the corporation? Well, it must be because they have more money! Not because the airline is responsible for making sure that they don't hire any dumbasses to pilot planes. Maybe the pilot had been reprimanded before, and maybe his record shows that he should have been fired, but the airline never took the right steps.
Stop jumping to conclusions to try to make the world fit into your narrow idea of how corrupt the legal system is.
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OttoNP
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It's not that I think the legal system is corrupt, these things are legal, I just don't think it should be this way. If a company is doing everything within the law like everyone else, they shouldn't be faced with liability. I think juries are just compassionate, its hard not to give money to someone that slipped on the floor and is paralyzed for life, even though most of us watch where we step. Cases like this force prices to rise, businesses to shut done, people to lose jobs, etc... I think people should only be able to get money in cases of obvious neglect. Juries feel bad for these people and their emotions rule their decisions. This is why medical costs are beginning to sore, doctors may sometimes make mistakes but as long as they are reasonable and trying their best, it is always easy to see what should have been done after the fact. Life will never be perfect, planes will crash, people will get hurt, cars will crash, etc... As long as reasonable steps are taken, people shouldn't be able to sue.
If you don't think its gotten out of hand, you should see the big billboard on my way to work with the number, 1-800-i sue big.
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Neognosis
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If a company is doing everything within the law like everyone else, they shouldn't be faced with liability
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That's right! But you don't know that the airline was "doing everyghing within the law." A JURY decided that they were not, and so they lost the case.
If nobody sued when they were wronged, trucking companies would not have to make sure their drivers were sobre, daycare centers would not have to make sure their employees had no criminal records, airlines would not have to make sure their pilots were not morons who shouldn't be flying.
If you were on a plane, and their was turbulance way, way beyond what could be expected, and you were injured, and you could prove it was because the pilot was busy banging a stewardess when he should have been flying the plane, and the airline knew that this pilot had a history of banging stewardesses when he should have been flying, but they didn't do anything to reprimand him or fire him, then you should be entitled to compensation from the airline.
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tyybo
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| Posted: Mar 20, 2003 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| Ya i think the co pilot would have caught it, unless he was in on the fun, lol i bet they feel stupid for not takin the 50 grand |
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