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jryoung Ladies Man


Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose
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Posted: Dec 08, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject: Did somebody say something about a Digital EOS 3???? |
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I could have swore I read something about this, but can't find it. I believe someone mentioned it will be Canon's newest development but they are waiting for Nikon to make a move. Anyone know anything? _________________
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pyrocasto PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


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Posted: Dec 08, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Havent hear anything yet.  _________________
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RD Addict


Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Posts: 626 City: Discovery Bay
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Posted: Dec 09, 2004 7:38 am Post subject: |
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That rumor started big time right before Photokina and is still floating around. A major Canon development Exec. was interviewed during Photokina and said that Canon's long term plan was centered around 1.6X, 1.3X and FF sensors with the gist of that being that 1.6X sensors were here to stay (so go ahead and buy those ef-s lenses!). He also said that Canon wanted to maintain a large & clear cost/feature differential between their 3 current levels (1Ds series, 1D series and 20D/Rebel series) which doesn't bode well for an EOS3 style body (which would really close the gap between the 20D and 1DmkII). I for one would buy a EOS3 style body in a NY minute for $2500.00. I think (as you say) that Nikon will have more to say about this then anything else. _________________ Rich Dykmans |
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jryoung Ladies Man


Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose
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Posted: Dec 09, 2004 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Rich, help me out here.
What's the difference (besides the obvious magnification factor) of 1.6, 1.3 and FF? Is FF and equal sensor (no magnification)?
The 20D is 1.3 right? and lower models have 1.6, right?
What are EF-S lenses? How do they differ compared to the rest of the canon eos line?
If/when they due produce an D-EOS 3, what cababilities are we talking about? Pixels, fps, sensors etc.
Any help is appreciated, I've always maintained pretty true to 35mm SLR's but with the 20D out, I think I may need a new toy, and I'm just trying to educate myself. _________________
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Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 658 City: Ephrata, WA
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Posted: Dec 09, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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jryoung
the 20d is still 1.6 crop factor
the EF-S line of lenses are designed only for digital camrea the only camera that they will work on right now are the digital rebel and the 20d. Im not sure exactly about all the differnce i think that they help with back focus and work better with the smaller sensor size, they also come in a wide 35mm equivalent so that you will get true wide lenses with your crop factors. _________________ we pillage we plunder we riffle we loot drink up me hardies yo ho! |
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Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Posts: 626 City: Discovery Bay
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Posted: Dec 10, 2004 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Nobody knows exactly what an EOS 3D might be. Best guess would be a 1.3X sized sensor and more of the features of the 1D mkII in a 20D sized body. Ef-s lenses have a physically different mount than the ef series. Canon shrunk the mirror box and sensor slightly from the 10D when they designed that mount into the 20/D & Rebel. It allows the lens to get closer to the sensor and thus Canon can make ef-s lenses physically smaller and yet wider too, such as the 10-22 and 17-85 ef-s lenses. _________________ Rich Dykmans |
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jryoung Ladies Man


Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose
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Posted: Dec 10, 2004 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Rich, So are there any performance issues with using traditional EOS lenses on say a 20D? Would it be better to use a S lens on a digital? _________________
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Posted: Dec 10, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| jryoung wrote: | | Rich, So are there any performance issues with using traditional EOS lenses on say a 20D? Would it be better to use a S lens on a digital? |
None at all, smaller sensors are generally "easier" from an image quality standpoint than 1.3X of FF using regular EF lenses as well because they don't use the entire image plane the way a full frame digital sensor or film does. In fact many are finding that the new 1Ds mkII (with it's 16mp FF sensor) is exposing flaws in the corners of their lenses (especially wide angle zooms) that they hadn't seen before.
The 20D actually works better with fast (f2.8 and larger) glass because it's AF has a more sensitive mode which the camera only goes into when it's connected to a lens with an f2.8 or larger opening. All of the current ef-s lens start at f3.5 or greater. So your ideal zoom for wakeboard shooting with the 20D is probably the EF 70-200 f2.8L IS. _________________ Rich Dykmans |
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