Batwing 313

Greg Smith · Posted: Nov 04, 2004 12:00 pm Post subject: Batwing 313

I've landed a couple batwing 313s on my trampoline. I have no idea if this is the proper name for the trick or what?!?!? I'll go video tape it and post it back up here as soon as its sunny out. Just wondering if anyone else as done them or heard of them? I did not see them on the trick list.

Phil · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga

Well if you do a t/s raley to frontside 360 its called a 90210 and i think only mark kenny has done them...I dont know though. Nones ever a done batwing to frtontside 3.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Nov 04, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject:

Nah not just Mark, I know Justin Abbot lands them.

Greg Smith · Posted: Nov 05, 2004 9:21 am Post subject:

Well is anyone at least landing them on the trampoline? I'd like to think that I invented a new trick but... I'm sure its been done.

colefooter · Posted: Nov 05, 2004 12:25 pm Post subject:

its not exactly invented untill you land it behind a boat

kyle · Guest

its called a 90210 and plenty of people have landed them. i dont think people really do them anymore because the trick probably hurts way to much for a potential landing and it seems like a lot of effort.

NickCanCountTo13 · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 123 City: Westfield

90210: Toeside Raley with a frontside handle-pass 360 - Invented by Mark McNamara.

So would that be called an Indy 90210?

Greg Smith · Posted: Nov 11, 2004 11:45 am Post subject:

There is a difference between a toeside raley and a batwing. There is also a difference between an Indy Ts Raley and a Batwing. A batwing is like a TS 911 I guess. But no, 90210 may be similiar but thats not it.

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

is the difference between a TS indy raley and a batwing is that the batwing the board goes verticle and the raley the board would be horizontal?

Phil · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE between a t/s raley with a indy grab and a batwing alls a batwing it is at/s raley with a indy grab. So peolple just leth them drift backwards.

Greg Smith · Posted: Nov 11, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject:

A Toeside Raley looks exactly like a Heelside Raley. The riders have their chest open towards the water for both. For a TS Raley with an Indy grab, the chest of the rider would still be facing the water but now there's simply a grab added. For a batwing, the rider has their chest facing the shore. There's your difference!

Phil · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga

It doesnt have to look like a h/s raley some people just do them like that theres no such thing as a t/s 911.

Greg Smith · Posted: Nov 14, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject:

Thats true, but its still not technically correct.

Greg Smith · Posted: Nov 14, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject:

How do you post pics on this thing?

Greg Smith · Posted: Nov 22, 2004 12:15 pm Post subject:

Sorry this took so long, but here is the video. The first attempt is garbage. On the second attempt there isnt a whole lot of extension. The third attempt is pretty solid though. There wasn't as much extension as you would normally see on a batwing but I got my body parallel to the ground and then quickly throw in a FS 3. So, I could probably get a better one on film but.... just wanted to get this posted. I really dont do the trick too often anymore.

http://www.wakepics.com/img/12896

Nick Sharp · Newbie Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 33 City: ATL

There is no difference between a toeside raley with an indy grab and a batwing.and there is not a toeside 911. If you go out there and do a toeside indy grab and the board goes behind you then its a batwing if you go out and jump ts and throw the board behind like a raley then its a ts raley. People do both of these things differently but either way you look at it ones a batwing ones a ts raley.

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Dec 21, 2004 9:20 am Post subject:

Greg Smith, First off, TS raleys dont have to look like hs raleys, there is not "technically" correct way to do it. Many people do the with the board vertical, many do them with it horizontal. Next, you didnt even grab the "board" on the batwing to fs 3, you hardly got you hand off the handle...And your def not the first person to do this...Tons of people do them...and tons of people's look better...

churchy · Posted: Dec 21, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject:

also, it doesn't look like you are doing a 3.. looks more like a blind 180