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PostPosted: Oct 26, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject: Sal flip Reply with quote

Does anyone think that a sal flip is possible? Its a really neat trick on skateboard but I was just wondering if you could do it on wakeskate.
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PostPosted: Oct 26, 2004 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a sal flip? I've heard of it, but break it down for me.
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PostPosted: Oct 26, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had no idea, but i looked it up

sal-flip-named after sal barbier, do an air, grab the nose of the board (while jumping above it) spin it 360 (the same rotation as a heelflip) and then land back on it.
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PostPosted: Oct 26, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a fingerflip?
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PostPosted: Oct 26, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess Confused
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PostPosted: Oct 26, 2004 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wakecrackhead, sounds alittle to hard.. not impossible but almost
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PostPosted: Oct 27, 2004 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think that this would be possible. people are already doing w2w indy shove its and i dont think it will be long before something like a kickflip to indy will start to appear on wakeskates. a sal flip might be more difficult but i think that maybe an indy fingerflip will be done pretty soon. wakeskating is progressing like crazy.
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PostPosted: Oct 27, 2004 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sal flip IS named after Sal Barbier, but it's not just a fingerflip. I think it might actually flip in the kickflip direction (fingerflips flip like heelflips), but it also does a shuvit so it'd be more like a varial fingerflip. I'll hafta go watch my Plan B videos, there's footy of Sal throwing one off a ledge at the beginning of one.
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PostPosted: Oct 28, 2004 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried indy fingerflips off of the white kicker at OWC. I got kinda close, but I got sick of walking everytime
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PostPosted: Oct 28, 2004 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

che blanc, you should try a kickflip to indy dude. its something new and it doesnt seem like it would be that much harder than a w2w kickflip or a shove it indy. pretty sure it hasnt been done, you could be the first and it would look sick!
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PostPosted: Oct 29, 2004 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never tried...
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PostPosted: Oct 29, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elevation, I agree in two years we'll be amazed with where wakeskating is
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PostPosted: Oct 29, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

che blanc, do it! and film!!!
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PostPosted: Oct 30, 2004 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gettin varial flips first and I ALWAYS film. There was only two of us ridin yesterday and we mounted the camera on seven small pieces of driftwood, hit record and rode for 30 min. then came back and turned it off Laughing

And I'm getting really close to varial flips

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PostPosted: Oct 31, 2004 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

che blanc, what was the camera set up on drift wood on shore and you just kept driving past or what?
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PostPosted: Nov 01, 2004 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think i could do it on wakeskate yet but i might be able to do it on a skateboard
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2004 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't they just like a plain hand shuvit?
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea you like grab ollie and grab the nose of the board and just kind of spin it with your hand. not that hard with a skateboard but with a wakeskate it would be harder and you would have to have some good hang time..plus it might be harder because of the size of the board
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it might be not too hard to get the rotation of it, but really grabbing it again and putting it back under your feet would be very hard
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2004 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that would look really tight to hold the nose a little, then spin it, then hold/tweak the grab afterward. how cool would that look, nose grab to "hand shove it" to a held seatbelt grab.
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be so hard to flip the board like that and catch it with one hand though.. keep in mind its a 360 shove it
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh nevermind then, that would be pretty hard then. i was thinking about a nose to shove it. so is a sal flip a nose tre shove or nose fingerflip?
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's not a 360 shuvit, nor is it simply a hand shuvit. It's essentially a varial fingerflip, but it spins like a kickflip rather than a heelflip.
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2004 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll ask my friend who skateboards a lot more than me..he will probably know
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2004 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jester, thanks jester, theres a bunch of different stuff said on here. so its a nose grab frontside 360 varial, you could say?
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think we could use a video of someone doing one of these on a skate board, that would clear things up
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So its a reverse varial fingerflip?
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elevation, I wouldn't say that. You do nosegrab it, but it's a 180 shuvit with a fingerflip in the kickflip direction.

Unfortunately I can't upload the video I have of it since it's on VHS, but I can tell you where you might find it. If anybody has the Plan B video Virtual Reality there's a tribute to Sal Barbier at the end that shows him actually busting his signature move off of a ledge.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

colefooter wrote:
keep in mind its a 360 shove it


i was going off this... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, i have no idea what im talking about, i read the first few words of the definition i had and wrote that Confused
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