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brianseymore Newbie

Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 41 City: Clear Lake
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: how do i make my wake sharper???? |
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| how do i make my wake sharper and bigger besides using sacs? |
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wakeboarder2687 Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 32
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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By sharper I'm guessing you mean steeper, is that right? The only way I know how to get a bigger wake is to add weight, if anyone knows otherwise, share the secret. There's really not much else to do besides add weight. You can always change speeds, but that won't give you what you are looking for. You can get creative with how you add weight though. People are always #1 on my list. You can try sand and lead too. I've heard of people making tubes of PVC pipe, that they cap on one end, and put a screw plug on the other end, then fill with sand. I guess if you have a sandy area where you put your boat in, you could fill them there, so you don't have to trailer the extra weight. To make your wake steeper, add weight to the back, more in the front will make it taller and more "rampy". Trial and error is the best way to figure out what works best. I need to warn you though, once you start adding weight, you may feel the need to add more and more (you know who you are). Just don't take it too far. Too much weight can be worse than none at all, in most cases.
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colefooter Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 3925 City: Fairborn, OH.
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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wakeboarder2687, summed it up
The only way to change the wake is weight. Play with the trim a little also. |
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roundbaywakeboard Soul Rider


Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 340 City: Crownsville
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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If you have an engine thats lacking horsepower, you're going to have a hard time adding any weight. When im packing 700 lbs, it takes a minute (literally) for the boat to plane. Boston Whaler, baby. _________________ Crownsville Wakeboard Team |
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savage3221 Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 3856 City: Austin, TX
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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my boat handles 1200 lbs just fine, just a bit slower out of the hole, but thats all.
I think more weight in the back makes your wake steeper..or just more weight overall also works, but you may not have so much weight to put in. _________________ Keep Austin Weird |
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brianseymore Newbie

Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 41 City: Clear Lake
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| does a tower make a big difference in wake size? |
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wakeboarder2687 Newbie

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 32
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Not in size. It doesn't affect your wake at all, but it will affect your airs. If you have the cash, get one. Someone care to explain the physics of a tower.....??? |
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Geoff Standish Addict

Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 843 City: Calgary
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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The tower doesn't have any thing to do with wake size. A tower just puts the tow point higher and enables the rider to "Float" in the air. These guys who've already posted pretty much summed it up... _________________ Riders Inc. |
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DavidHoff Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 1855 City: Dallas
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't give you the ability to jump higher, but it does give you the ability to stay in the air longer (AKA - Hangtime). Since there is no down force pulling the rope down, there is no resistence to the amount of time your in the air, but on a boat without a tower, there is a downward pull on the rope in the air. _________________ www.Tigeowners.com
www.dallaswakeboarding.com
www.tbks.us |
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brianseymore Newbie

Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 41 City: Clear Lake
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah i have noticet that without a tower it pulls me down and i eat my crap. i just thought that it might have an impact on the wake size too. it there a big difference in a subtle 3 stage rocker and a 3 stage rocker? |
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DavidHoff Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 1855 City: Dallas
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Well the name says it all. Both are 3-Stage rockers but one will have more rocker or depth than the other. A Subtly 3-stage will feel a little bit softer while a more agressive abrupt 3-stage will be an agressive, hard board. _________________ www.Tigeowners.com
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Tyler~Moore Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 1941 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Oct 18, 2004 3:48 am Post subject: |
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brianseymore, no a difference between suble 3stage and 3stage?
and a tower effect wake size, now i KNOW your retarted...
and with a yamaha boat buddy, nothing you can do will save your wake _________________ www.Shadrack.com
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Jim M Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933
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Posted: Oct 18, 2004 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Does the tower make the wake bigger?
Im guessing you are familiar with advanced hydrodynamics and displacement theories. Lets say Tower A constitutes a structure of x lbs. And Boat A weighs a total of Y lbs. The combined weight of x+y=z, where Z is the total weight of the boat. Now apply the new figure Z to your algorythm of water displacement, factoring in water temperature, depth, hull dynamics. Then compare that to the results you get with figure Y. And there you have it- the difference a tower makes in weight size. Please post your results here. |
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Oct 18, 2004 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Jim M, the tower would also help pull the back of the boat into the water. By applying torque to the tower you are pulling up the front of the boat which pushes the back of the boat further into the water.
Unfortunately in both the situation I mentioned and the situation you mentioned the difference in wake is negligable. That's why everyone is saying a tower won't help the wake. |
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Jim M Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933
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Posted: Oct 18, 2004 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| I tried to keep it simple, but fine, complicate things. Torque pressure applied to the stern of the boat will be figure S, so sv2/(y*s)=T. brianseymore, please factor this into the algorythm accordingly. |
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midwest wake Addict

Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton
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Posted: Oct 18, 2004 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| alright a tower will change a wake shape, you know why. because it's not weightless. it has a weight. so there for it is putting more downward movement on the boat. easy. |
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