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how do i make my wake sharper????

 
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: how do i make my wake sharper???? Reply with quote

how do i make my wake sharper and bigger besides using sacs?
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By sharper I'm guessing you mean steeper, is that right? The only way I know how to get a bigger wake is to add weight, if anyone knows otherwise, share the secret. There's really not much else to do besides add weight. You can always change speeds, but that won't give you what you are looking for. You can get creative with how you add weight though. People are always #1 on my list. You can try sand and lead too. I've heard of people making tubes of PVC pipe, that they cap on one end, and put a screw plug on the other end, then fill with sand. I guess if you have a sandy area where you put your boat in, you could fill them there, so you don't have to trailer the extra weight. To make your wake steeper, add weight to the back, more in the front will make it taller and more "rampy". Trial and error is the best way to figure out what works best. I need to warn you though, once you start adding weight, you may feel the need to add more and more (you know who you are). Just don't take it too far. Too much weight can be worse than none at all, in most cases.
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wakeboarder2687, summed it up

The only way to change the wake is weight. Play with the trim a little also.
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have an engine thats lacking horsepower, you're going to have a hard time adding any weight. When im packing 700 lbs, it takes a minute (literally) for the boat to plane. Boston Whaler, baby.
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my boat handles 1200 lbs just fine, just a bit slower out of the hole, but thats all.

I think more weight in the back makes your wake steeper..or just more weight overall also works, but you may not have so much weight to put in.

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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does a tower make a big difference in wake size?
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not in size. It doesn't affect your wake at all, but it will affect your airs. If you have the cash, get one. Someone care to explain the physics of a tower.....???
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tower doesn't have any thing to do with wake size. A tower just puts the tow point higher and enables the rider to "Float" in the air. These guys who've already posted pretty much summed it up...
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't give you the ability to jump higher, but it does give you the ability to stay in the air longer (AKA - Hangtime). Since there is no down force pulling the rope down, there is no resistence to the amount of time your in the air, but on a boat without a tower, there is a downward pull on the rope in the air.
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i have noticet that without a tower it pulls me down and i eat my crap. i just thought that it might have an impact on the wake size too. it there a big difference in a subtle 3 stage rocker and a 3 stage rocker?
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PostPosted: Oct 17, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the name says it all. Both are 3-Stage rockers but one will have more rocker or depth than the other. A Subtly 3-stage will feel a little bit softer while a more agressive abrupt 3-stage will be an agressive, hard board.
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PostPosted: Oct 18, 2004 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brianseymore, no a difference between suble 3stage and 3stage?
and a tower effect wake size, now i KNOW your retarted...
and with a yamaha boat buddy, nothing you can do will save your wake

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PostPosted: Oct 18, 2004 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the tower make the wake bigger?

Im guessing you are familiar with advanced hydrodynamics and displacement theories. Lets say Tower A constitutes a structure of x lbs. And Boat A weighs a total of Y lbs. The combined weight of x+y=z, where Z is the total weight of the boat. Now apply the new figure Z to your algorythm of water displacement, factoring in water temperature, depth, hull dynamics. Then compare that to the results you get with figure Y. And there you have it- the difference a tower makes in weight size. Please post your results here.
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PostPosted: Oct 18, 2004 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim M, the tower would also help pull the back of the boat into the water. By applying torque to the tower you are pulling up the front of the boat which pushes the back of the boat further into the water.

Unfortunately in both the situation I mentioned and the situation you mentioned the difference in wake is negligable. That's why everyone is saying a tower won't help the wake.
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PostPosted: Oct 18, 2004 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to keep it simple, but fine, complicate things. Torque pressure applied to the stern of the boat will be figure S, so sv2/(y*s)=T. brianseymore, please factor this into the algorythm accordingly.
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PostPosted: Oct 18, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright a tower will change a wake shape, you know why. because it's not weightless. it has a weight. so there for it is putting more downward movement on the boat. easy.
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