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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2004 12:59 pm    Post subject: Tantrum Frustration Reply with quote

every time i try to tantrum i lose... there's no real other way to put it... im a loser at tantrums... A couple of times i've come close to landing one, but i lost the rope (like a loser). After about my 20th try on my houseboating trip i just gave up and worked on backrolls.

I KNOW i'm advanced enough to do one of these, but every time i feel i get worse at it. I either under-rotate, lose the rope, or land in the "picture perfect faceplant" stance... you know... the one where your face breaks the sound barrier before slapping the water cause your board gets sucked under.
I know that its a trip trick, and i have a friend who says i'm approaching it well... i think some of the problem may be in letting go of my back hand, i do it but dont 'throw' it.

thanks!
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, find somone in your neighborhood w/ a trampoline and get busy
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2004 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can your friend even hit it?

get as much speed as possible coming into the wake and ride the whole wake up and right at the top do the trip flip, thats how you get the most pop possible

trampoline helps a lot, just strait backflips with a rope
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2004 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe you cant do it cause you call yourself a loser and tell yourself you cant do it Shocked
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2004 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first off you need a better attitude, I was having trouble with the handle too, try to keep the handle in by your waist to keep the slack out. And try try try you'll get it.
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2004 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always have the losing the handle problem when learning new tricks. The key is just to tell yourself "this is f'ing stupid, I'm going to hold onto that handle and not let go until I'm dragging along the water." Then when you do the trick, concentrate really hard on not letting go. That usually works for me.

Also, your attitude really doesn't help. Insulting yourself is only going to get you down. Instead, you should be visualizing yourself being successful, and telling yourself you can do it.
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2004 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, some people are dragged and are lucky enought to be able to stand back up. just keep your head up and keep trying
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2004 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yaa blindside, ive always wanted to do that it looks so sweet
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you guys see when parks like fell and got back up in the X-games?!?! That was awesome. There was a huge splash and the boat started slowing down and then out popped parks. lol
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smlparksguy133, no i didnt see that. come to think of it i didnt see any riding from the x-games. i missed it all. i was sad
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smlparksguy133, or Darin Shapiro in Relentless...looked like he came from a complete drag.
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruky, didnt see that one either. but i did see the one in sneaky with shane bonifay where he was riding on his back and flipped over and since he was in competition he got right back up like nothing happened and went right into a whirlybird it was crazy
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PostPosted: Sep 21, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks alot for the feedback (i was jokin about the loser part... but mentality seems to be alot of it) i have a trampoline and can do backflips (and double backs) but without a board... as soon as possible im hookin up a rope

many thanks Mr. Green

saw that recovery too... blew my friggin mind.
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PostPosted: Sep 21, 2004 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBoardin, YOU CAN DO DOUBLE BACK FLIPS Shocked . thats crazy man. i can do single no problem and i can lay them out so crazily but i could never work up the guts to try a double!
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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2004 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBoardin, you can go to a sporting goods store and buy some ankle weights to try to make it feel like the weight of your board. but dont kill yourself if you under rotate and fall on your face
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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blindside_137, oh man that sounds dangerous...... im scared to try without the weights
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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just started landing tantrums about a month ago. The biggest thing that helped me was letting go with my back hand, squaring up at the top of the wake, and keeping the rope in, actually pulling the rope in with my lead hand all the way through the trick. That helped me spin faster, and pick up the water early. So once you feel the pop, keep the rope in tight and look for the water. The hardest part for me was sticking the landings but once you get a few down, they're actually pretty easy. Hopes this helps!
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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2004 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmarbles, yaa its probably like backrolls.....once you land one there pretty easy to land. hopefully i will get the tantrum soon cause im so close. i have to wait all winter though but i will try to remember to keep the rope in tight next time Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2004 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was having the same problem as you until my dad (who knows nothing about wakeboarding) said I needed more air. It was simple advice, and at first I was like screw that, I can do backrolls without a wake. Regardless though I cut way out, took a huge progressive cut in and popped like I never have before and landed a huge tanny. After that you can learn to tone them down a bit if you have any respect at all for people who can still walk, but it's a good way to learn them.
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PostPosted: Sep 24, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

s-s213, sounds scary to try it huge...but ill do it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Oct 07, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it seems if i tried with weights when i took them off i would over rotate. im still looking for a crappy board to take on the trampoline... which brings me to my next question... would it be an ok idea to take my byerly on the trampoline? im jus really paranoid and love that board.


yea the doube backflip is pimp... not as hard as it seems though...
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PostPosted: Oct 07, 2004 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBoardin, i dont think thats such a good idea.....not only could it ruin your board, you could ruin the trampoline too. like if you hit an edge hard on it slid across it could ruin the trampoline mat....or it could snap your board. ive never tried it but it doesnt sound like a good idea to me Shocked
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PostPosted: Oct 09, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruky wrote:
smlparksguy133, or Darin Shapiro in Relentless...looked like he came from a complete drag.


was it relentless cause im pretty sure he does it in retrospect...looks sweet, why would shapiro be in a Lf team video?
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PostPosted: Oct 11, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

viva la mike, are you sure thats just a liquid force team video?
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