This is how you jump the wake with pop.

[wakeboarder_dude22]

Today me and my dad finally figured out how to get some nice, consistent pop on my w2w jumps, after casing the second wake for weeks. I'm going to write how I do it, and hopefully it will help others figure things out.

First, start at the top of the wake and make a hard cut down it. Use this speed to get you into the flats. About halfway out, back off your cut and just coast in the direction you were cutting. Then slowly start edging back in when you feel the boat pull you. Don't go out too far, and don't coast for so long that you slow right down. You don't want the rope to go loose at all, and it takes some practice to keep it tight. You need to have a very smoth rythm, try relaxing and don't think about it too much. If it stays tight throughout the whole trick, your cut into the wake will be consistent all the time and you won't get any whipping action.

As you cut in, start slow then apply more and more pressure to your edge while leaning on the rope. The handle should be held into your hips and your knees bent.

Don't break your position until you get to the very top of the wake. Once there, don't jump. You straighten your legs and push downwards, keeping the handle at your hips. Pushing downwards on the wake while the line is tight is what shoots you into the air. You must push at the very top of the wake, not any earlier. This may seem obvious and easy, but it takes good timing and patience.

If you do it right, you will know it. You will get shot right up, and unless the line is tight, you probably won't have any control. Look at the horizon where you are heading to balance yourself on the landing and land on edge.

Hopefully this sums up everything. It is often hard to know what you are really doing on the water, so get someone in the boat to read this also and help you out, even if they don't wakeboard themselves.

[darkman155]

all sounds good except for one thing, letting the boat pull you in is ok for normal wake jumps but as soon as you start doing tricks you will want to change that. When you let the boat start to pull you in and then start your progressive edge it builds up way to much line tension and too much line tension is bad for any trick, usually resulting in pulling you off axis or just ripping the handle out of your hands. You should think about cutting out and then making a smooth turn back towards the wake and then edging instead of letting the boat pull you back in before you edge

just my two cents though

[midwest wake]

darkman155, with out that line tension you wont get as good of pop, also you need line tension for alot of tricks. not trying to make you sound dumb, but if you see any videos you won't see to many pro's cut back in before the boat starts pulling them that way if any at all.

[colefooter]

yeah like he said, line tension is key, that is how you build the most speed with the progressive edge + line tension, you don't cut untill the boat starts pulling back

[wakeboarder_dude22]

Yeah, I know there are some tricks that use different cuts and need less line tension, but I'm just talking about clearing the wakes and developing good technique.

[Lifeless44]

You also want to edge through the wake. If you jump and your front foot is up, your doing it wrong. You are not putting enough pressure on your front foot. Always put more than you think you will have to. One common misconception is tho straighten your legs. When people say stand tall they mean your chest is up and your head is up. Keep your knees firm but bent. You want to take off the same way as you land for most tricks. Trust me on this one.

[ben746]

No, you stand tall with your legs and that will keep your chest up.

[Lifeless44]

I am around pro wakeboarders and pro instructors every day. I have ridden with Jim leatherman Josh smith and others. Trust me on this. LEgs bent is correct. If you dont get more pop with legs bent then something is wrong. Either your feet arent weighted right or you are not edging through the wake.

[WakeboarderX30]

Dude i seem to get more pop when i ride in bent and than straiten at the wake. Thats just what works for me

[ben746]

[Lifeless44]

If you straighten your legs at the wake you will go flat and you will get as much hieight as you would on a skateboard jump off of a three foot ramp at 21 milels per hour. Keeping your legs bent but firm will help you use rope tension and catapult you into the air. Ill make a post with a sequence soon.

[fergie23]

everytime I see a picture of myself jmping, my front foot is way higher than the back and board is angled with knees slightly bent...am I putting way too much weight on my back foot? or not edging thru enough? should I come off the wake flatter? thx

[fergie23]

everytime I see a picture of myself jmping, my front foot is way higher than the back and board is angled with knees slightly bent...am I putting way too much weight on my back foot? or not edging thru enough? should I come off the wake flatter? thx

[Lifeless44]

here is a prime example of what i am talking about. Extending your legs at take off will cause you to go flat and ramp off of the wake. To the person above: You are probably not weighting yourself right and not staying on edge through the wake. Here is an analogy......when a big air moto rider goes off a jump he gets more pop if he loads the shocks on the jump by throwing his weight forward. For the people that are bashing my knowledge of wakeboarding, I have been open to all ideas and i have tested them with many people. I ride in the outlaw division of the WWA and i know what im talking about. Why do you all get so upset when i try to help you.

[midwest wake]

[Wicked Bite]

What is funny is i think Everyone is saying the same thing, just different terminology. When people say stand tall I haven't seen anyone say lock your knees they just mean push enough so your knees don't absorb the pop. I believe the people saying bent don't mean stay squatted but the exact samething keep you legs stiff just not locked strait out.

I may be way off but the way i see it you are all saying samething.

[Lifeless44]

actually you are right. Thats what i mean. Because you usually want to take off exactly how you land, its pretty standard. I dont mean you should absorb the wake with your knees, just have them bent, and firm not locked out. Trust me it will help you in the future with harder tricks. The only tricks that i extend on are tantrums and tantrum variations. But when i get into the air i bring them back in, because its not good to lay out ur tannys.( for grabs and so on in the future)

o and by the way.

[fermentj]

SUMMARY -------- progressive edge, push off the wake

[ben746]

[Blindside_137]

ben746 all the way!!!

[LFADAM]

you definelty need to straighten your legs at the wake, my sister doesnt and she gets about 1 foot high. I used to bend my knees at the wake and not get in the air, then i wouldnt change my body position at all and it was better. then i actually straightened my legs and get the best air yet. I have never seen anybody get over 5 feet of air with their legs bent. you really have to straighten your legs.


Lifeless44, Im interested to see your sequeance to see what yu are talking about.

[Lifeless44]

I will upload a pick. But seriously did you read the damn thread man. Ya you will get some nice hieght if you straighten you legs. But you will still go flat. Resist the wake and stand tall. This means keep your chest up. I will actually add a video. after sunday. Or you can come watch the Lifeless crew on october 8 in red bluff for the last WWA comp. Someone kill this thread.

[midwest wake]

before the tread is killed, standing up doesn't make you go flat, lettting your self get pulled on to your flat does.

different things work for different people. some things just don't work for some.

anyways we lost the point of this tread
wakeboarder_dude22, congradulations on figuring it out. it's one great feeling to figure somthing out on your own.

somone please lock this nonsense.

[wkbd]

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