why should/shouldn't buy a 04 moomba LSV

steve-o

ok,

i just found out that a new LSV is very reasonably priced and looks like a good boat. Let me know if this is a good boat to ride behind, and if the quality is worth spending the money on.

let me hear the positives and negatives about this boat.

Broccoli B · Posted: Sep 02, 2004 11:29 am Post subject:

i have one and like it, there are plenty of other threads on this topic, You should run a search to get more information.

khoekz16 · Posted: Sep 02, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject:

I would say yes. especially if you like, you should go with it. I have been in the old moombas and the new. They are like different boats. You must keep in mind that the quality of these boats are in a different category than CC and MC. I would say it is like comparing a nissan maxima to a BMW 5 series. Both do everything well, but one was pushed to the limits in excellent quality, and the other is very solid.

Many ppl will try to tell you that the moomba will not hold its value well. But, lets do a comparison. I can easily find a 4 year old CC SAN for 60% or less of its original purchase price (about $55K for about $33 or less). The moomba mobius, which was a lower quality than it is now, sold for about $34 and i have not seen one for under $20. so i would say depreciation is not a factor.

The moomba is solid, and the colors are alright. you are gonna find that they use less quality carpeting, stereo, vinyl, gauge cluster etc. But the wake, especially when weighted, is Very Very nice.

The other thing that is very nice about this boat is its versatility, if you have any skiiers, they will be very happy at slalom speeds with the ballasts empty.

Finally, to answer your question. In my opinon, for the size of the boat and the wake you can get, and everything else, i believe it is worth it. But if you dont need that much space - check out the malibu v-ride (40k out the door), gekko boats, and i have heard good things about sanger/calabria (not familiar with the prices though)

good luck man.

crowem87 · Criminal Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 64 City: Indianapolis

i think the moomba has teh optional bertha ballast system but im not sure, but if it does i highly recommend it

steve-o · Posted: Sep 02, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject:

what is the LSV standard ballast weight in Lbs? and is the wake plate anygood?

deepcove · Soul Rider Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 296 City: Vancouver

I have a 2004 Mobius LS ( DD version of the LSV) and I am very happy with it. I run factory ballast which is a tank under the rear seat and a bag in the ski locker ( I believe 800 lbs). I also use a couple side sacs, the wake is very solid and gives a good kick. I would highly recomend the wake plate, it is very useful for cleaning up the wake.
You should realize this boat has a wide 95" beam. This is great for some one like myself who has a family and needs the room. The negative to this is a wider boat takes more weight to sink it down for a bigger wake.

A lot of newer wakeboard boats have a beam in the neighbourhood of 90" or 91" and then of course there is the Nautique 2001 hull with a 84" beam thus the ability to make a big wake with minimal weight.

PortlandBrder · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 352 City: Portland

because you can buy a X star Correct Craft

Broccoli B · Posted: Sep 02, 2004 9:04 pm Post subject:

come on now portlandbrder, i would think that a 26 year old could put together a better post than that.

Stock ballast on a Mobius LSV is 900 pounds. 250 in each rear compartment, and 400 in the center locker.

psudy · Outlaw Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 155 City: kansas

Portlandbrder, I didn't know that I had to WB to own a 50K boat. Do I have to be on the pro tour if I buy a 100K boat? Rolling Eyes

Shawn Madison · Posted: Sep 03, 2004 6:55 am Post subject:

deepcove

Actually beams are getting wider!

Broccoli B · Posted: Sep 03, 2004 7:36 am Post subject:

Yes, it seems that beems are getting wider and manufacturers are advertising that. It seems that maybe wakeboats aren't just being made to throw a sick wake, they may be sacrificing a little wake to support the wakeboard lifestyle (hanging on the lake chillin) Which i deffinatly agree with!

deepcove · Soul Rider Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 296 City: Vancouver

Beam Stats:

Moomba Mobius LS 95"

Correct craft
206 Air 91"
Super Air 91"
216 Air 91"
211 Air 93"
226 Air 96.5"
2001 Hull 84"

Sanger
V210 90"

Wakesetter 93"

All but one these are narrower than the Mobius LS / LSV

wakeboarder2342 · Criminal Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 91

I have an 03 lsv GG edition and ithink its a great boat. Upgraded the back tanks to 500's and threw in a smokin stereo, sub and tower speakers. I think the wake is awsome, its not as big as an xstar or SAN but its plenty big with a nice shape. The wakeplate is a nice feature to have. Id say the most important options are in this order.

320 EFI motor
Perfect Pass
3 bag ballast system
tandem axle trailer
stereo w/tower speakers
heaters
depth finder
stainless rub rail

I went with all of that stuff, and i love my boat. I admit the fit and finish is a bit better on some of the other boats like SAN or wakesetters however they also come with a 10k higher pricetag which in my opionon the nicer vinyl and carpet isnt worth the 10k. They have nice Indmar motors and drivetrains which is the important part.

Bottom line is if you like the looks of it, id say go for it. they are nice boats, not the "nicest" boats on the water but deffintly a great ride. Its really about comparison, everyone that rides in my boat thinks its the nicest in town. but thats being compared to a bunch of I/O boats.

Good luck on the decision

YELLOWMOBIUS · Addict Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 776 City: da region

Schmo · Posted: Sep 04, 2004 3:37 am Post subject:

Hockeyplayer · Posted: Sep 04, 2004 1:38 pm Post subject:

Did anyone actually understandPortlandBrder,'s comments. Also, a very good reason to buy a Moomba would be to piss of that guy that goes through all the Moomba threads and bashes them because his friend didn't like his Moomba. I am actually surprised he hasn't chirped in yet.

patrickengler · Posted: Sep 05, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject:

steve-o,

Brocolli is the one to ask for sure. We've been hittin the boat pretty hard this summer and its held up great. It very spacious in my eyes. Its got plenty of power. The wake is great as far as I'm concerned but I haven't had the chance to get on a SAN or MC. All in all I love the '04 LSV but if a SAN came along only a couple years older I might be inclined to go with that. All depends on which way the wind is blowing Wink

boardstiff · Soul Rider Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Posts: 264 City: Canada

Steve-O... I am also considering the LSV. Have you looked into pricing yet? I've been on there web site and everything is in USD and they say it is just an approx. price. I would be interested to know what kind of price you got quoted in CAD. Have been to visit the marina yet? What options are you considering?

steve-o · Posted: Sep 07, 2004 11:05 am Post subject:

boardstiff,

i went out to Muskoka Lakes Marine this past weekend. THey didn't have any LSV's but they did have the LS (same hull just a DD). I was pretty impressed. the wake seemed pretty nice and the wakeplate was interesting in changing the shape of the wake. I could imagine the V drive version would put out a bigger wake then what i saw. They marine quoted me $40 000. on a stock LSV, which i believe is tower, trailer, ballast (there might be an option for more lbs.) carbarated engine, not EFI, and i believe thats it.

the marine says they'll be getting a couple more boat in from the states soon. thats about all can say, i was pretty dissapointed that they didn't have the LSV in.

Broccoli B · Posted: Sep 07, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject:

My 2004 Mobius LSV was ~$34000 loaded without PP, shower or Heater

Major Upgrades include:
Dual axel Trailer
EFI motor
Wakeplate
3-Bag Ballast
Extended Warranty

txnautique · Newbie Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 45

I'm sitting with my friend in the room who has the lsv and we've been looking for used nautiques in the 30's to 40's and taylor says (this is for hockeyplayer) that he being a mobius owner, would buy nearly any ski boat over his mobius. (he's had it for 1 1/2 years now and has had several large problems with it. The last one was when the swim deck floated off the back and the boat and was floating in the middle of the lake becuase the bolts that conected it to the stern actually snapped. The dealer fixed the problem free of charge but in my opionion that wouldn't have happend. The engine has run well but thats about the only thing he hasn't had some kind of problem / complaint about. He now says that he would recomend getting a 2 years old naut or MC or Tige or wakesetter over a bran new Mobius that would cost the same price. Basically anything but the bayliner of skiboats. I've also conversed with several other mobius oweners in waco and so far 2 out of 3 say they would have bought something else. The owner who liked it hadn't been around any other ski boats and was still just excited to have a boat. For 40k you can get a bad %#@ boat as long as its not a mobius.

Broccoli B · Posted: Sep 07, 2004 12:45 pm Post subject:

I always love to hear the friend of a friend of a friend stories.

If what your saying about the platform really did happen, that is amazing that the hardened stainless steel bolts snapped before the fiberglass gave way.

Sorry to hear about all your friends troubles though.

Jonesy · Outlaw Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 115

Whatever, I know people who have had problems out of their Tige's, Mastercrafts, and Nautiques. Now does that make them bad boats to have.

steve-o that is a rediculous price. i can get you a loaded out LSV right now for under 35K

Broccoli B · Posted: Sep 07, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject:

He speaks in those funky canadian bacon pesos remember

steve-o · Posted: Sep 07, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject:

yes, $40K is CANADIAN dollars. Thats basically the price the marine gave me over the phone, meaning i'm sure they would be willing to go down a bit if i paid in full

steve-o · Posted: Sep 07, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject:

yes, $40K is CANADIAN dollars. Thats basically the price the marine gave me over the phone, meaning i'm sure they would be willing to go down a bit if i paid in full

YELLOWMOBIUS · Addict Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 776 City: da region

txnautique

oh god here comes the moron again he feels he needs to post something negative about moombas at every chance he gets. if you look in the other moomba thread this is what he wrote

lcap · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 10973 City: Homeless

My neighbor has a 96 moomba. I have skied behind it for years. It has one of the best wakes for waterskiing of any boat I have been behind. The boat has been bullet proof.

This summer I taught his wife and step son to wakeboard behind my SAN. He will be ordering a new LSV this fall. I cannot wait to have the pleasure of another ride next spring.

Moomba gives you alot of boat for the money.

noneya · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 796 City: Roxboro, NC

I'm on my second Moomba now, loved my first Outback but stepped up to the Outback LS this year. Had 1 problem with the first one and 0 with this one.
250 hours on the first and 125 on the new one so far

Jonesy · Outlaw Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 115

these moomba bashing posts are getting old

YELLOWMOBIUS · Addict Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 776 City: da region

no kidding and its the same kid everytime

Jonesy · Outlaw Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 115

If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. Learned that a long time ago

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

I almost bought a moomba. I was a little turned off by the cheap feel and lack of freeboard, and the fact that you feel like you are sitting on the floor, but for the price, I thought I could deal with those issues.

Then I found an 03 malibu for less money, comprably equiped, than a new 04 moomba. I went with the 03 'bu. But if I haden't found the malibu, I probably would have bought the moomba, despite the things that bothered me a little.

(funny, but the thing that bothered me the most was that when I sat on the engine box, (dd) it dented in, like a car hood would. We sit on the malibu engine box all the time, and it never dents in. Just an example of the small differences in quality, perhaps?)

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

He's asking for people to say bad things here. I would also about any purchase. You want to hear the problems people have so you know ahead of time and can decide whether or not to get one.

I would definately check out Sanger for the same price. Their build quality is much better IMO.

Jon · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1176

cameraboy,

Just curious, which Moomba were you looking at that dented the engine cover? That fiberglass is pretty thick there. I'm surprised.