Gonna try TANTRUM this weekend

MASA · Newbie Joined: 03 Jul 2003 Posts: 16 City: JAPAN HAMAMATU

I will go out wakeboarding this weekend.

Maybe I will try the Tantrum again.(3rd try in my life.)

This is the VID of my 2nd try.

http://photos.wakeboarder.com/showphoto.php?photo=4997&password=&sort=2&thecat=500

Please tell me what I should keep in mind when I try it
next time.

That fall really hurt (my right foot),so if I keep falling like that,
I think I'm gonna get scared to try this trick.

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 05, 2004 8:43 am Post subject:

2nd try not bad,,,, you are not committing to the trick...

you square up and release fine (great actually for your first few attempts) but you never lead with the head and it staled out your rotation.

Do everything you are doing except when you get that POP, push the chest up and the head back. Lead with the head and the body will follow.

wakeguy2008 · Addict Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 847 City: Ft. Myers

or u could hump the sky...lol jk. dont throw it...that will steal ur pop....do what jdogg said and lead with ur head.

colefooter · Posted: Aug 05, 2004 11:43 am Post subject:

Try doing a few backflips off of a dock, or a trampoline. On these, you have to lead with your head. If you don't you will do a huge back smacker. Then do the same with the tantrum on the water.

HatzicMotive140 · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 261 City: abbotsford

yeh jsut like a backflip on a trampoline man jsut go for it! Smile

cowdoc13 · Newbie Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 43 City: College Station

Excellent try. The tips everyone else posted are right on. Watch the video in slow motion if you can. When you take off, you get excellent pop. The board starts to come up and over. It caused you to bend at the waist at the time you would have wanted to push your chest up and then throw your head back. Just like everyone said, you have to help the rotation initated by being tripped at the wake by pushing your chest up as you feel the pop, and then throw your head back to help complete the rotation and spot your landing. Once you see the water, start bring your head up and look for the horizon you just came from to help stop your rotation and get your chest up for the landing. Then turn your head and look to where you are going to ride when you land.

Looking at the video, you got great pop and started to take it up. But you failed to push your chest up and look straight back at the time you got the pop. When you finally started to get turned over, you were "lost" in the air and were just trying to figure out where you were. Because your arm was high and out away from your body, the pull of the boat and you turning your head to the side to see where you were pulled you off axis causing you to land as you did.

Keeping the handle in, or pulling the handle in, as you are in the air will help speed your rotation. If you see that you are rotating too fast, you can let the handle out a little. If you see you are coming up short, pull the handle to your lead hip really hard to try and speed the rotation. Someone decribed it as trying to keep your elbow against your side while having it slightly bent. Learning to do that help me a lot.

Again, that was a great try. You waited really late to initate the trick. That is how you got the good pop to take it up. The tendency in trying something new is to throw it really early. When that happens, one gets no air and spins really fast. Those crashes tend to suck too. Practicing back flips on a trampoline, while holding a rope tied to an adjacent tree, was a big help to me in starting to learn this trick. It really helped me learn where I was in the air, how to pull my arm and handle in and feel the rope throughout my rotation, how to spot my landing and then look for the horizon to stop my rotation and get my chest up so I landed with my weight over the board. Keep trying, you are right there. Learning to push your chest up and then look back with your head is all you need to do to get it to turn over so you will land on the board. Then it is a matter of learning to use your arm to adjust the tension on the rope to help you control the rotation so you land on the board and ride away.

Good luck. Sorry for the long post. Hope it helps.

toothpick · Posted: Aug 06, 2004 6:54 am Post subject:

All good advice. Here is something that helped my friend make sure he lead with his head on the tantrum:

Realize that you are going to see (in this order) the shore to your right, the sky, the shore to your left (upside down), then the water, where you will land. Just think as if you are following a big circle with your eyes. Good luck!

HatzicMotive140 · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 261 City: abbotsford

yeh i also thought this might help to with the "tripping"part of it on a diving baord jump up and down get some hight then when you come up...lean back sorta and let the bvaord spin your legs up and over you...would this work?

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Well, the board should come around naturally if you get a good release, you shouldnt need to 'lean back' at all. In fact that may slow down the flip rotation and make you land on your head. The 'trip flip' is good terminology, but still you want to carry your edge all the wake up the wake and collapse at the top. If you trip flip at the base of the wake, you will get kicked backwards, but it will be low and ugly.

Its funny on the first few attempts how time slows down, but at the same time you are disoriented so it kinda counters itself Laughing

HatzicMotive140 · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 261 City: abbotsford

haha nice yeh i am going out this weekend and gonna try a tantrum and another flip ...ok you know an ariel in gymnastics(flip with a half twist) but you do the twist as you rotate so its like doing a round off with no hands except ur squared up.an i was wondering if this is what a whirly bird is and if not if it even has a name becasue i think i mught try it toeside this weekend.

zcashion · Criminal Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 70 City: Lake Lure

no a whilrybird is a tantrum basically that you literally "whirl" your lead arm around your head causing you to do a 360....what it sounds like you are talking about is a ts frontroll with a 180 which is a scarecrow i think

HatzicMotive140 · Soul Rider Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 261 City: abbotsford

oh ok thanks...but i though a scarecrow you did the front flip and then the 180...i am talking abotu doing the 180 while doing the flip...