lebron james

matt 4 · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 4:37 pm Post subject: lebron james

i just saw on espn that his mom just gave him a new 03 H2 hummer with 3 TV's dvd and all the works, u think she got a hefty loan from somebody??

Maestro · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 4:38 pm Post subject:

The local sports radio station was talking about that yesterday. It wouldn't surprise me if she did... But he'll be able to afford it no problem next year...

Chales · Guest

There's starving people across the world and the news people actually think that we'll care more about some gift a highschooler recieved from his parents.

The sad thing is that they're right.

Jam · Outlaw Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 141 City: Indy

Who is he?

Maestro · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 4:48 pm Post subject:

A very skilled 18 year old basketball player.

Zach M · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 4:48 pm Post subject:

The controversy is because there is a rule in the NCAA that says you can't base a purchase on future earnings (a college player can't buy and expensive car on credit because he knows he'll be drafted and paid a lot the next year). There is no rule in high school though because no player has ever been this well known in high school. His mom took out a loan to buy him the car as a gift, and used his future earnings as the basis for the purchase. I think it was a smart move on her part. He will be buying her a house, cars, and basically anything else she wants when he's rich, so she might as well get on his best side now.

Jam · Outlaw Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 141 City: Indy

What happens when he blows out a knee, or some c**k su*&$% shoots him in the spot where he won't be able to play in the NBA, mamma gonna move into that nice big hummer or will she be turning some to pay for it.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

No matter what, this will have no effect on him being picked number one in the draft. It really shouldn't matter as much as people are making it out to be.

Did you guys see his between the legs dunk on ESPN? It was pretty sick!

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0113/1491984.html

Rocko · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 6:29 pm Post subject:

yeah JJ, i did see that. that kid has got some serious skills, and i would love to see him woop it up on kobe.

STPHNSN23 · Guest

i wish my mom would give me a hummer...no not that kind u pervs

Rocko · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 6:44 pm Post subject:

that's not even funny, you sicko.

Dees · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 7:28 pm Post subject:

here's how it is. If he took it as a gift from an agent or the like, then he would have to forfeit his amature eligibility, and all games he StMary StVincent team played when the gift was first recieved (they ranked #1 right now). I think it was a legit deal. Why wouldn't his mom take out a loan on 51k. He as two deal worth 80 million on the table for shoe. Nike and Addidas. ANd that's not including what he is going to get from some lucky NBA team that wins the lottery and selects him as there first rounder.

Any bets on what he's contract will be worth. I'll say 110 Million for 5 years plus a 10 million signing bounes

Jam · Outlaw Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 141 City: Indy

110mill WoW dess don't you think that is a little extream

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Dees · Posted: Jan 14, 2003 7:57 pm Post subject:

well he'll get 80 million from Adidas/Nike and plus what ever he get from yhe NBA team. I was just guessing. I don't know what the cap is on Rookies

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Well, I guess he got the Hummer without violating any rules, but now he's no longer an amatuer because of some free jerseys he received.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=531&e=1&cid=531&u=/ap/20030201/ap_on_sp_ot/bkh_lebron_s_jerseys

ohsix · Posted: Jan 31, 2003 7:21 pm Post subject:

This is kinda off subject but University of Texas football players Chris Sims and Cedrick Benson both drive new escalades. Sims' dad could have bought his but Cedrick is form my hometown and i dont know how he got that escalade. Also when Ricky Williams was at Texas he drove a H1 hummer. I've heard rumors that they signed with minor league basball teams and used the signing bonuses to purchase their rides, but i know Cedrick Benson was nothin special at baseball cause i played against him. Also i never heard of either one of them actually playing for any pro baseball team.

derrick lenz · Posted: Jan 31, 2003 7:25 pm Post subject:

local car dealers let players drive thier cars for free. technacally the don't give them to them so it's alright. they do that at pretty much every school if you just look.

ohsix · Posted: Jan 31, 2003 7:32 pm Post subject:

Cedrick got his escalade in midland at the cadillac dealer and now drives it in austin with blades and 5 tvs in it. I dont think he's just borrowin it. but i dont know for sure.

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

on espn today at 3ish pacific time they announced that james is INELIGIBLE to play in the remainder of his high school games cuz of the hummer deal and some other things. he apparently received "gifts" from people that he shouldnt have and that has voided his eligibility as an ameteur athlete according to his state's guidelines. i turned the tv on mid way through the conversation but i did hear that james will be appealing the decision but WILL NOT sit down and apologize to the commisioner of the state athletic organation for what has happened. the conversation was between dick vitale and one of the sports center anchors.
like i said i turned the tv on mid way through the convo, and they were talking about people giving him "gifts", and they didnt seen to be talking much about his hummer (which has 3 tvs) so i dont think the hummer was the problem here.

Ryan_m · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 653 City: glen ellyn

i hope he gets injured, in his first season and his moms plan backfires. I mean come on, from what i have heard the family is on wellfare.... and yet she can go out and buy a hummer with the credit of her sons name, and future. Thats crap, expectial for a kid who yes may be good against high schooler, but no one knows how good he will be against professinal players.

absolutmacking · Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 34 City: Ga/Sc/Il

After watching sportscenter tonight, i could not believe how people reacted to his amature status being revoked. One of the reporters said people in ohio feel its either the Ohio high school association's fault or its the media's fault. It amazes me to see that nobody makes him take responsibility for his actions. Apparently he took pictures for the store to put on their wall as payment for the jerseys. I would think he would know that there are rules against him receiving gifts like that. Granted, if people were telling me i was the greatest thing on earth and giving me everything i wanted i dont know how i would act. I also love the fact he talks about himself in the first person. What a class act. But the kid can ball.

absolutmacking · Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 34 City: Ga/Sc/Il

After watching sportscenter tonight, i could not believe how people reacted to his amature status being revoked. One of the reporters said people in ohio feel its either the Ohio high school association's fault or its the media's fault. It amazes me to see that nobody makes him take responsibility for his actions. Apparently he took pictures for the store to put on their wall as payment for the jerseys. I would think he would know that there are rules against him receiving gifts like that. Granted, if people were telling me i was the greatest thing on earth and giving me everything i wanted i dont know how i would act. I also love the fact he talks about himself in the first person. What a class act. But the kid can ball.

Shawn Madison · Posted: Jan 31, 2003 8:57 pm Post subject:

I think it is kind of sad for his teammates. Now they have to go to the state tourney without him. I mean, it seems like he has been caught up with all the hype. He can't help it that he was born gifted and worked hard at his game.

But, he should have been versed in how to watch violation issues by his coach and school. I would have never let him have the Hummer and the rest probably would not have happened.

absolutmacking · Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 34 City: Ga/Sc/Il

I agree i feel bad for his teammates too. The sad thing is instead of being 14-0 now they are 13-1 because he got the jersey's before their last game. They have 5 games left, and could end up going 13-6. wow, just a thought. any thoughts on how well he will do in the NBA, since there is no way he can even go to college if he wants to.

Grace B. · Posted: Jan 31, 2003 10:19 pm Post subject:

Yeah I feel sorry for his teammates too, weren't they ranked one of the top teams and now they have to play without their best player, they don't stand much of a chance! I heard that LeBron is getting a lawyer and they are going to appeal the case. I don't really know what to think about the whole thing. I kinda think its stupid, all the kid did was take a couple of jerseys, but then I would think he would know that taking them would get him in crap! We will see what happens...

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

if he DID do something wrong then he should be punished regardless of whether he is the next jordan or just another student in high school. nuff said.
the intersting thing is that he supposedly WAS on welfare. he wasnt well off by any means. all of a sudden he started to arrive to games in personal limos and now he has a hummer. now the obvious question rises as to where all this stuff came from.
i feel sorry for the james. i dont know whether or not he made the decisions that got him in trouble or if they were made for him by someone else. like they said on espn earlier he was robbed of his childhood. he never lived the life of a high schooler, he lived the life of a pro. oh wait. i DONT feel sorry for him, he chose to play basketball in the first place. he has nobody to blame for this but himself.

Zach M · Posted: Feb 01, 2003 2:17 am Post subject:

Grace - are you from portland?

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

jumalian · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego

First of all, wishing injury on someone is just ridiculous. Ryan, I know you're a much better person than that. You seem like a level headed person to me and a respectable maturity for you age. The comment you made, though, was simply terrible.

Secondly, Lebron James is a kid. His maturity and skill levels are easy targets. Maturity level, because he's a kid, and easily enticed. Skll level, well, because he's so damn good, he's hounded by tons of agents.

So take this kid with his skills. Agents swarming him with the full knowledge of the financial potential that is seen, not as a gifted player, but as dollar signs. How many kids out there would've turned down a $50k vehicle or jerseys sure to be worth in the thousands one day?

Now, that doesn't mean I don't think James is to blame at all. As an amateur athlete, he must know some rules that prohibits athletes receiving "gifts", including receiving a $50k "loan" for a vehicle.

He's not the only one to blame. I believe the agents, who know EXACTLY what the rules are, ruined his high school career. These agents, I parallel with accident/injury lawyers. I'm not saying all agents and all accident/injury lawyers are bad, just the ones that are only thinking of the money, and not what's in the best interest of their client or future client.

The person I blame the most? His mom. Another person that, I believe, was NOT concerned about what's in the best interest of the kid, but she's seeing dollar signs flash in front of her.

Agents? Fine them. All the persons involved (car dealer, sports memorabilia dealers, etc.)? Fine them. His mom? Make her pay for the car. She bought it, right? Put her ass to work.

By the way, Jello John, are you sure it's Nike? Have you seen his Adidas shoes and Adidas sweatbands? Very Happy

JHrod · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3144

joe-----the agents had nothing to do with him losing his amatuer status----the person to blame is a shop owner who offered him free jerseys for pictures with lebron to put up in his store

jumalian · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego

Yeah, the shop owners were the ones to blame...this time! But the agents dangling this and that in front of his face, you don't think that had anything to do with it?

It's like someone dangling a big, meaty bone in front of a dog's face. The person can pretend to say "no" and the dog will listen, but eventually, the dog is going to grab the bone.

JHrod · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 3144

ah i have been enlightened as to ur point Idea

Grace B. · Posted: Feb 01, 2003 11:37 am Post subject:

Zach- No, I'm not from Portland, I'm just a HUGE Blazers fan!

As far as LeBron goes, I watched a whole thing on ESPN about this last night. The "experts" on there all said they expect to see him back playing in high school games again! I heard he may pay the store back for the jerseys and then they were going to appeal the case.

derrick lenz · Posted: Feb 01, 2003 11:59 am Post subject:

just another spin on the whole leboron story. why is it ok for people like espn, his high school (pay per view), and the promoters of tournaments to cash in on leboron's name while he has to sit back and not get a thing. i understand the whole amature status and i agree he shouldn't get free stuff until after high school but it's kinda a double standard. hopefully after returning the jersy's or paying for them he can get his amature status back. if not he won't be eligable for the all important mcdonalds game.