Great Letter about Someone's take on IRAQ!

Shawn Madison

Someone forwarded this to me and I thought I would share it. Nor sure if it is real or not, but I sympathize with its content.

I sat in a movie theater watching "Schindler's List," asked myself, "Why didn't the Jews fight back?" Now I know why. I sat in a movie theater, watching "Pearl Harbor" and asked myself, "Why weren't we prepared?" Now I know why. Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil people. On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed themselves to be overpowered by a handful of poorly armed terrorists because they did not comprehend the depth of hatred that motivated their captors. On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too many Americans naively reject the reality that some nations are dedicated to the dominance of others. Many political pundits, pacifists, and media personnel want us to forget the carnage.

They say we must focus on the bravery of the rescuers and ignore the cowardice of the killers. They implore us to understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major television stations have announced they will assist the healing process by not replaying devastating footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers. I will not be manipulated. I will not pretend to understand. I will not forget. I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press to kick our country when it was vulnerable and hurting. I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President Bush's address to the nation with the snide remark, "No matter how you feel about him, he is still our president." I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned President Bush's motives for not returning immediately to Washington, DC and commented, "We're all pretty skeptical and cynical about Washington." And I will not forget that ABC's Mark Halper in warned if reporters weren't informed of every little detail of this war, they aren't "likely -- nor should they be expected -- to show deference."

I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending an attack on the USS Cole in Yemen was not an attack on the United States of America. I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic terrorists and their supporters with the world's most sophisticated telecommunications equipment and encryption technology, thereby compromising America's ability to trace terrorist radio, cell phone, land lines, faxes and modem communications. I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes like those perfected by the previous administration.

I will not be comforted by "feel-good, do nothing" regulations like the silly "Have your bags been under your control?" question at the airport. I will not be influenced by so called, "antiwar demonstrators" who exploit the right of expression to chant anti-American obscenities. I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by American war protesters who reviled and spat upon the returning soldiers, airmen, sailors, and Marines. I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose reassurance over reality. I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told Labor Party conference, "They have no moral inhibition on the slaughter of the innocent. If they could have murdered not 7,000, but 70,000, does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced in it?

There is no compromise possible with such people, no meeting of minds, no point of understanding with such terror. Just a choice: defeat it or be defeated by it. And defeat it we must!" I will force myself to:-hear the weeping-feel the helplessness-imagine the terror-sense the panic-smell the burning flesh- experience the loss- remember the hatred. I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself, "Where did they find the courage?" Now I know. We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living.
-- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.)Not as lean, Not as mean, But still a Marine. Keep this going until every living American has read it and memorized it so we don't make the same mistake again

wake152 · Posted: Feb 24, 2003 12:39 am Post subject:

can u send that to all the hippies that live in my town?

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

wake152 · Posted: Feb 24, 2003 2:01 pm Post subject:

stupid hippies

Richie Martin · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 5:46 am Post subject:

good article.

and to all the anti-war people...if you don't like your freedom, leave.
And if you don't like me saying that, I'll kick your asss!
That's what happens to people who don't defend themselves, they get their asses kicked.

maybe I'll go find an old hippy and kick the stuff out of him. My father is a disabled veteran from vietnam, who was drafted. After he was FORCED to go kill people, he was forced to come back and suffer the criticism of is fellow country men.

PISS ON ALL OF YOU ANTI-WAR PEOPLE!!! Just because you didn't start it, doesn't mean you don't have to end it. Evil or Very Mad

Krashr31 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 238 City: Florida

yeah piss on you Anti-War people, the fruits of our kins labor are not yours to enjoy-God,Country and Wakeboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

base · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 208

lets bomb france...

Krashr31 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 238 City: Florida

Word.

base · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 208

then we can bomb all the liberals...

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

Defend ourselves from what??? We haven't been attacked by Iraq and Bush hasn't clearly shown the American public evidence of how Iraq is a threat to our freedom or lives.

"maybe I'll go find an old hippy and kick the shizzle out of him."

Since you're talking about freedom, I'd just like to point out that you'd lose pretty much all of it in jail.

I'd also like to point out that less than half of America would support a war that isn't backed by our allies. Richie's gonna have to do a lot of ass kickin'.

Weirdophobia · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 3:34 pm Post subject:

I'm with Jello on this one. Its got nothing to do with defending freedom, its probably just about oil (or atleast its a big reason in my opinion)

ohsix · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 3:38 pm Post subject:

im sure weirdo and jello are right.
it's just a big conspiracy to spend lots of money, risk people's lives, and endanger out nation made up by the president and all the people who support him just so we can have more control on the oil market. the cia and all those people are dumbasses they have no idea what's really going on. the television networks and people who protest the war know more than anyone else.

this post contains sarcasm.

Weirdophobia · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 3:44 pm Post subject:

That was actually pretty funny wes.
All I'm saying that I have not heard one good reason or should I say evidence that in my opinion is worth going to war. And of course I do know everything. he he

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

I don't think it's a conspiracy. I just find it interesting that almost no one in the world thinks this is a good idea, including the MAJORITY of Americans. I don't think the CIA or our government is full of dumbasses, nor do I think this war will be mainly about oil, but I do think that if our leaders know stuff about Saddam and Iraq that the public doesn't know, it should be made public. What's the point in hiding it from us?

Weirdophobia · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 3:57 pm Post subject:

That's pretty much I liked to know too

ohsix · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 4:30 pm Post subject:

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

I'd rather know if something was going to happen.

Also, if Saddam has missiles, they most likely will target Israel, as it is extremely unlikely that Iraq has missiles that can go halfway around the world. I'd be more concerned about something like the terrorist attack in the movie "the sum of all fears" where a guy brings a nuclear bomb to the US and detonates it. I don't know if "a nuclear missile full of anthrax" is even possible. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the blast kill the virus?

If Iraq has the capabilities of doing this, why aren't we showing it the UN? I'm sure we'd gain their support if we could prove this to them.

Maybe Bush plans to release the facts the day WE attack, or at least I hope he does.

Jerry · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 4:57 pm Post subject:

I dont know if my opinion counts here because im not an american but if the u.s and it's allies let it slide this time and quit it and let iraqi go about there business and then say in 5 years Saddam decides to start a war, who are all the people going to look at to put Saddam down?

My guess would be the U.S. and while im sure they would help out, this is something they could have ended 5 yrs earlier and probably with alot less trouble.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

All opinions count. Especially in something that is a global issue.

ohsix · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 5:07 pm Post subject:

DRAGON88 · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 5:08 pm Post subject:

I think Baby bush is just trying to do what daddy bush couldn't do. (gulf war) also it is proven that war helps our economy ex: The great depression, ended after W.W.II! also if this goes over, think about it. that's right bushes popularity level will go up, why?! because people like War and violence, even though it isn't neccicary (sp). and i like all of this BS about ooh....maybe we should start using hydrogen instead of fossil fuel. really dip stuff? THE F-ING TECHNOLOGY HAS BEN OUT FOR 9 YEARS!!!!!! That and the oil companies have been buying up springs and such!

ohsix · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 5:11 pm Post subject:

just for you dragon. you can add your name in after weirdo and jello.

DRAGON88 · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 5:16 pm Post subject:

Wes, im not trying to come off as a liberal prick or any thing.....I just don't think its worth it..

ohsix · Posted: Feb 25, 2003 5:33 pm Post subject:

you're not coming off like that to me dragon.
im not trying to come off like an ass either but i just think maybe the govt knows more than us and they will make the best decision. if al gore was president and doing the same thing i would still think that our govt would make the best decision.
everyone is entitled to their own opinions and i respect yours and am just stating mine.

bizzuck · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593

has anyone changed their mind now that we know that saddam is not cooperating with the un sactions, ie he has missles that go farther than 93 miles and hasnt destroyed them and didnt list them in his documentation of arms.

Weirdophobia · Posted: Feb 26, 2003 1:17 am Post subject:

I just want to add that if the us govt know stuff why don't they tell france, germany and russia to get their support for war

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

93 miles doesn't frighten me. I guess N. Korea violating its sanctions, possessing nuclear weapons that I think I heard could reach the US, and threating war with verbal threats and missile tests isn't as much of a concern to our government as the incredible 93 mile flying missiles of Iraq. I'm beginning to think this whole war is just a big joke.

bizzuck · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593

if it fly's over 93 miles then it breaks the sanctions. and they didnt disclose it. do you people not understand what rules are?

B-rad · Posted: Feb 26, 2003 8:27 am Post subject:

I liked the letter, I felt that it was an accurate statement from someone that cares about his views and belives in this country. I'm a strong supporter of the US military and of Bush. I think the liberals out there that supported Clinton's actions on bosnia, yet fell that Sadam is not a threat need to re look at the issue from a logical stand point. I fully support the president, and the war on Iraq. As a previous member of the 173 Airbourne Infantry I have no qualms about being recalled and going to fight a war in Iraq.

MadDog · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 465 City: Upstate NY

ohsix · Posted: Feb 26, 2003 8:34 am Post subject:

bizzuck- im beginning to think that the war protesters have no real reason for their actions. i dont mean to be harsh but i think they're just a bunch of drama queens that want something to do. i have had discussions with many people about why they are protesting a war and i've had the same experience with every one of them. they all give me the excuse that bush is just an idiot and wants to bully people and it's all about oil. then i give them the argument that i did above and they get all defensive and pissed cause they dont really know why they are doing it and they cant think of any good argument. i feel that the majority of them just have something against bush and see this as an oppurtunity to bitch.
i would be more than happy to hear anyone's argument and with an open mind it's just that i havent heard a strong argmument for the protestor's side yet.

B-rad · Posted: Feb 26, 2003 8:43 am Post subject:

Agreed Wes here in the hippie capital of Texas, er ugh... Austin.. It seems as if everyone says "oil is the only reason for it... Oil.. oil..." If everyone one of these people are so smart and can tell us the "Real reason", why aren't they in politics? If you look at the facts: Sadam was suppossed to let the inspectors come in, he failed inspections and then kicked them out for 2 years. He has WMD, he has wepons that are not being declared. He has been caught providing false information to the UN security council. Those are reasons to go in there and take the WMD, the wepons that were to be disspossed of years ago and stop the atrocites of the Iraqi people.... facts support action, opinons on the "real reason" of war are a bunch of BS that has no legs to stand on.

ohsix · Posted: Feb 26, 2003 11:16 am Post subject:

I bet it's real bad in Austin. This is supposed to be a conservative school and when the weather was nice a few weeks ago there was 100s maybe even 1,000 people protesting the war here.
I dont mind people protesting at all. In some cases we may actually need protest. It's a great freedom and a great way to express your opinion. It's just that as far as the war goes I dont think people have all their facts straight and imo they are just showing their ignorance.

Pat McCarthy · Posted: Feb 26, 2003 1:26 pm Post subject:

Personally, I see both sides of the story on this one, and can't really come to my own conclusion.

First, I feel that as a regular citizen, I lack the information to really have an informed decision on the matter. Our government has far more information than we know, and motivations and pressures I don't know about and can't duplicate in my mind.

Then, in the anti-war stance, I really dislike war. I feel that war just breeds more hate and more war. Invading Iraq will create more anti-American sentiment around the world, and will probably create more terrorist acts against American interests. I also think it's not something the USA should do alone, or just with the United Kingdom. Also, I don't believe Iraq is our most important threat. I understand Saddam has broken rules, but so has North Korea. North Korea has actually probably violated international law even worse, has missiles that could hit the USA, and has nuclear weapons. How is Iraq a bigger threat? North Korea also is just as likely, if not more likely, to sell weapons to terrorists. They're also making war threats, while Saddam has just been doing his own thing for years. I also think defending our own country against terrorists and breaking down Al-Qaeda is more important than disarming Iraq.

However, I also see the other side of it, such as that which is stated in the letter above. There are evil people, and it's not a perfect world. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to defend ourselves from crazy people with powerful weapons. And sometimes violence might be necessary to stop crazy people. But I just think in this case we could keep Saddam at bay for a long time with inspections and the UN, while we try and diffuse the North Korea situation and protect ourselves against terrorists. But I think now, our administration has already committed to this war, and they think they'll look foolish backing out. And yes, I'm pretty darn sure if Iraq did not have oil, we would not care so much.

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936