Looks like I'm getting a fishing boat after all...

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

Don't know if some people remember me and my topics about what brand of boat would be affordable yet still retain somewhat good wakeboarding specs, well looks like I'm screwed and my dad decided to go the fishing boat route... It's a luck it isn't an outboard to start with, but it still had an aluminium hull...

Here's what he'll most probably buy...

http://www.princecraft.com/apps/products/specifications.jsp?lang=E&ID=12186&familyID=12185&RootID=11923

Ok so here's what I'm wondering... Will this be better than a sea-doo challenger 1800? ( http://www.seadoo.com/en/SportBoats/2004/Challenger.1800/ )

Because that's what I had before...

If I load a ton of fat sacs and put on a pylon, will it be allright? Or am I really totally screwed that I should buy a wakeskate? (I hope not, I suck at skateboarding)

Ah crap, do I hope it's going to be possible at least, even tough I'm going to look like the biggest Wally ever.

scooter · Addict Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 633

first off yes that will be much better then the sea doo challenger
to get a good wake with a i/o you should raise the trim a good amount and add some weight to the front. that boat looks totally wakeboardable
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WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

And about the aluminium hull... Doesn't that make it bad or something, are they worse than glass fiber hulls? In what aspects? Or are they exactly the same? Confused

Bruky · Guest

no, its more about the shape of the hull rather than the material it is made from. i agree with scooter though, that thing is definately wakeboardable...ive seen people riding behind pretty much any possible boat you can think of...

anyone remember what issue of wakeboarding mag it was that they had the green giant boat or something along those lines...but it was an entire article about how some guy was trying to keep us remembring that the sport is about the riding, not the bling.

salmon_tacos · Posted: May 10, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject:

WakeBoardingManiac,

Nobody here will be able to tell you about the wake. Is there any way you could test drive the boat? It's entirely possible that the wake will be total crap; since it wasn't designed for a good wake, it's completely unpredictable. It could be washy, small, flat, steep...or absolutely perfect...who knows?

Maybe you could get your dad to test drive some similar boats and go with the one with the best wake.

In any case, the one thing such a boat will definitely do better than the Sea-Doo is give a more consistent pull because of the prop in place of a water jet.

Bruky · Guest

salmon tacos is completely right, nobody can tell, and even the smallest flaw in the hull could ruin the wake...i was thinking earlier that if you compare it to another boats hull, but the smallest things CAN affect it...

lakeboarder · Posted: May 10, 2004 8:21 pm Post subject:

I agree it's hard to tell how the wake will be. There's not much info on the site about the hull shape except that it has a reverse chine. That will make it a little more stable but might make it pound in chop. I have no idea what that might make the wake look like, but it's definitely going to be way better than the SeeDoo boat. I rode behind one of those and after a couple of minutes I just let go, it was a total lost cause. I would guess that if you play with the weight a little and the trim you'll get something you can have a lot of fun with and that's really what it's all about anyway. I think you should try and get two sets of the optional down rigger mounts installed so you can throw a Monster Tower on it!! Wink

intotheflats · Posted: May 10, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject:

Don't sweat it dude, at least you can still ride. I had to sell my boat so I have trouble finding people to catch a ride with. I haven't been out yet this year Crying or Very sad

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

Thanks so far, at leats I know it can't be worse than what I had Very Happy

We'll probably test drive the boats, but I think it's pretty much the only one in the line which has an I/O ( I was at least able to make him get an I/O, and made him promise not to buy an outboard) and he wants a princecraft badly (don't ask me why...)

Anyway, I'm not complaining, better a bass boat than no boat, but oh well, I had wished for better! (And what's pissing me off is that I checked the price, and for this price we could get a KILLER used wakeboard boat, but he doesn't want to go used... Darnit)

intotheflats - Really sorry for you, if you were in my area I'd be more than happy to give you a pull on a killer bass boat ( Rolling Eyes

) but you're a bit far away. Have you tried the find a pull forum? People in the US seem to have moe chances than people in quebec in there...

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

Looks like there is still hope, he heard from someone that aluminium boats vibrated a lot, and he doesn't really like that, so he's going to test drive first (I hope it vibrates Rolling Eyes

) and I was able to get him to look at used boats ( Very Happy

) and he looked interested in a tige because of the lifeplus warranty (but we don,t know if it's transferable...). If it is, maybe the luck will turn!

cstmgsxr · Soul Rider Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 470

intotheflats,

i will be hitting it hard pretty soon, i got your number, i will give you a call when we go..... PM me when your available...

colefooter · Posted: May 12, 2004 5:07 pm Post subject:

Yeah , the fishing boat will work fine for now, just go win the lottery or something, or go get a lift from a bud if you really wanna get a better ride.

Tony M. · Newbie Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 8

You can always put your wakeboard equipment on Ebay and buy a couple of fishing rods. Very Happy

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

Yeah I tought about that Rolling Eyes

Bowen · Posted: May 13, 2004 2:22 pm Post subject:

Dude, You'll be fine boardin' behind that...I grew up boardin' behind a '77 Sea Ray. You can adjust the trim on that for your wake needs.

Tony M., Very Happy

tWaker2 · Soul Rider Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 375 City: Gilroy, CA

it could be way worse. When you said "fishing boat" i imagined the sleek little outboard boats that go flying around at 50 mph. hook that boat up with a tower and some weight and you should be just fine. also, trim up a bit, just like everyone is saying, it makes a huge difference. Good luck!

Stretch · Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 2003 Posts: 26 City: Corbin, KY, USA

I'm not sure I understand the advice to trim the I/O outdrive UP to improve the wake. With the I/O, you will already get quite a bit more bow rise on takeoff than you will with an inboard. If you trim the outdrive up, it will INCREASE the bow rise.

I would trim the outdrive DOWN all the way and move my passengers forward.

Brit Rider · Posted: May 15, 2004 6:00 am Post subject:

Trim it up to get the bow rise, but the idea then is to stick weight in the front to keep that sunk, that way, you get a little bit of bow rise but a lot of wake Cool

If you trim it up it lifts the boat up, then if you move everyone forward you'll get a flat very slight wake... bestest for slalom!

salmon_tacos · Posted: May 15, 2004 8:47 am Post subject:

Stretch,

You definitely want to set the trim all the way down to start but most I/O wakes seem to respond well to trimming up a bit once underway. Really, the real advice about the trim is:

The trim allows extra control over the wake. Use it. Experiment.

colefooter · Posted: May 15, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject:

You will live behind a fishing boat

Bowen · Posted: May 15, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject:

colefooter, what?

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

I don't understand either Neutral

powdrhound · Posted: May 16, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject:

Salmon's correct When you start off you want the trim all the way down.
Once your up to wakeboard speed.... trimming up a bit will help you clean the wake up
on my bayliner trimming up for 2 seconds makes the wake sweet and clean

Bruky · Guest

agfan and wakeboardingmaniac, just ignore colefooter's posts. he is just trying to get his post count up8-)

as for the trim, when you trim "up" it puts the bow up, and when you weight down the bow, it will bring the back down into the water and an equal angle as when the front was unweighted. think of it like a wedge where the back has invisable ballast by sucking itself into the water.

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

Oh i see thanks =P

Yeah, I saw the results of trim this week-end, we went to test drive the boat, and I must say I was impressed at the wake. It was really big with the trim about halfway @22mph and no weight, so it will be pretty nice with some weight and tweaking a guess!

Bruky · Guest

yeah, whatever boat you get, you will totally be happy with it man! i rode behind a P.O.S. Bayliner for a good portion of my life, and i got plenty good behind it with only a pylon, and always remember what most tend to forget, its all about the RIDING, not the bling and the gimmics.

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

I think the same thing, it's just that we were in a market for a new boat, and I tought, hey, since we're looking for a new one, might as well try to get a killer one! But I'm not whining about what we're getting, it looks actually pretty cool.

If you wanna look at it, it's this one

http://www.princecraft.com/apps/products/specifications.jsp?lang=E&ID=12186&familyID=12185&RootID=11923

Bruky · Guest

yeah man, dont sweat it...look at all the people that could only wish they had a boat! youre gonna be ripping it up behind that thing, no doubt. Twisted Evil

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

How old are you? I had to wait a long, long time riding behind old I/O's that only worked sometimes before I got my own boat. Trust me, you will appreciate it SO MUCH MORE when you have to wait and work for your own boat, and you finally don't have to rely on the old man's 401K ride.

WakeBoardingManiac · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 914 City: Montréal

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

Yeah, you'll be glad. I've been riding behind I/Os my whole life and now that I have a full time job I went out and got me a nice nautique. I love that wake, and with a tower, and the fact I've had to wait so long and that I bought it myself, it couldn't be more rewarding. Rather than if I had been riding sweet wakeboarding boats my whole life... I would feel like crap driving my old nautique.