How many times did it take you to stomp your first raley?

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wakeboarder_360 · Posted: Mar 10, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject:

It took me around 10 tries to land it. I learned it behind an i/o so you should be able to do it with good technique. I could only do it on my friends board for some reason. in the pic you can see that my wake is pretty small.

Wake_Turner · Outlaw Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 244 City: kelowna

When i first started learning them i would try one at the end of every ride and would catch my toes coming down. I did about 3 of these then found someone to tell me how to do it and i stomped one in about 3 tries. So about 6 to answer your question.

tparider · Posted: Mar 15, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject:

Wake Turner - what were you doing wrong on the first 3 attempts? What did you do differently that allowed you to pull the landing after the next 3 attempts?

Thanks

Inggy · Posted: Mar 15, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:

Like Wake_Turner, i would try one after every run. After about a month (which is about 10 trips out or so) I stuck it.

Wake_Turner · Outlaw Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 244 City: kelowna

when i first started learning raleys i had no idea what a progressive edge was....that was the biggest problem so what happened was i would get on the gas way too soon and be flying at the wake and when i reached it, the second problem i had was that i thought u needed to throw the trick with your body. the truth is that the wake will do that for you if you execute a proper progressive edge. the edge is the most important part of the raley as it is a true "load-and-release" trick. for the raley cut you should edge as far out as you possibly can. the key part of the progressive edge is to allow the inital part of the cut to be caused by the boat where it will just start to turn your edge back over onto your heels and get you heading toward the wake. when you do this properly you will avoid all that nasty slack which takes away the line tensoin and thus the load part of the edge. so once the boat gets u moving in toward the wake slowly add more and more force to your edge. the closer to the wake you become the harder you should be edgeing. at about 10 feet from the wake you should be at your hardest edge which is very important that you maintain all the way up and through the wake. this will generate that insane pop you are looking for. once you leave the wake let the board float out behind you which when the edge is proper is the natural progression for the board to want to do. When you are at your full extention you shoudl feel a definite snap at which point you pull the handle down into your hips which will bring the board back underneath you. a few key thigns to keep in mind is when the board is goin out behind you make sure u are lookin at the top of the tower and not the water. this will keep you from overrotaing onto your back. it is also very important to keep your edge all the way up the wake and i cannot stress how much you do not want to throw the trick with your body because you will lose all your pop and eat massive S***. another thing u might have noticed watching other people ride is that when most experienced riders are coming in to do a raley their knees are very bent and the stand tall at the wake which gives them even more pop. this is great when u have learned them but becomes very hard to learn to time the proper time to stand up tall and have to think about everythign else that is going on during a raley. trust me when learnign this trick just have a tall positoin while cutting into the wake. it will generate more then enough pop for you and it's one less thign to think about. i hope all this helps for you good luck and happy recovery(just in case it doesnt go to smooth)

kyle · Guest

here is my first raley

wakehype · Soul Rider Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 460 City: Fresno

*cuts kyles rope from inside the boat* Mr. Green

haha jk, looks pretty nice for your first one

kyle · Guest

yeah learning a raley was the worst experiance i ever had wakeboarding, nothing compares, im glad its over

BR_WB · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2850

I learned in four tries and then later on I got knocked out - so now I need to relearn it. Really easy to do, but really easy to mess up.

poolezy · Criminal Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 55 City: Markham

i landed my first one practiced on wakeskate first though

Hayes · Criminal Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 68 City: Cullman, AL

It took me like 10 tries. I landed my first one last year and it was the greatest feeling ever. Be prepared for some pain while learning.

DudeManWes · Criminal Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 96

Kyle, was the picture taken at the boat side of OWC?

Adam Greer · Posted: Mar 25, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject:

took two days of trying, and it is the scariest trick i have ever learned. And comming up short is the worst pain ever hahah.

kyle · Guest

DudeManWes, yeah it was

holdsworth · Posted: Mar 26, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject:

stilll tryin it.....i tried like 6 of them last fall and they killed me cuz i dod a flip since i let go of the rope Neutral

this spring i am hoping on stompin it

intotheflats · Posted: Mar 27, 2004 1:17 pm Post subject:

I landed my first, second and third try. i accidentally did a krypt on my fourth try. Then I saw my friend who has tried like 30 times(without success) catch the nose and split his chin open from the fin on the board. He had to get 12 stitches. After seeing that, I have not been able to try them since.

giggleboarder · Criminal Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Posts: 69 City: Eden Prairie

oh man raleys- thats just trouble when you first start learning them. i tried one on the water for the first time and crashed big time..didnt know i could bend like that. i tried it again and just figured i wouldnt make it back down in time so i just let go and dove into the water. it was a good swan dive. hah. other than that, just a couple days ago i stomped a few raleys on the trampoline. you really have to kick your feet back..and GO BIG! its all or nothing my dear friends. i just hope i can do it on the water.

Phil · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga

It took me about tries.I landed like 6.But one day i was doing them and went alot bigger than normal and made the mistake of looking down when i started to pull it down and caught my nose...Worst crash ive ever taken. I think I had a minor concussion, couldnt really remeber anything i did that day.I have only done one sense

south · Posted: Mar 28, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject:

raleys are a fun, cool trick to do.. pulls chicks, you can go massive and if you start grabbing them they , and it cant be done in any other sport that i know of..
it is really important for you to commit to this trick when you make your turn, or else you wont land it.. it can be scary cos of the speed, but the crashes are in general overated.. except for a few.. but if you worry about them, you are too soft..

firstly, when doing a raley on the water, dont think about throwing your feet behind you, if you do it correctly, it will happen automatically..

it does help to get out as wide as possible, this gives you more time to build line tension and helps you make sure you have a good body position. wait for the line to come tight and then do a relatively slow turn.

i think about sinking my board as deep into the water as i can to make sure i get a good hard edge.. i usually put to much weight on my front foot which is a bad thing to do, you really want to be balanced 50-50 on your feet.

when you are learning them, dont let off before the wake, as soon as you think about letting off, you generally start doing it to early into the bottom of the wake and lose your line tension and hence pop, just hold a strong (not suicidal) cut into the wake.. i try to make it about 90% of as hard as i can cut..

after you get the pop, kindoff let your hips drift away, i know this sounds strange but if you execute the cut correctly it happens naturally. crossing the second wake or thereabouts the rope comes tight, hold on.. and pull the handle towards your feet or knees... this is when you hope that your front edge is not going to catch.. i'd give the handle a good old yank when learning - youd rather butt it out than catch the front edge cos it really hurts..

you really have to commit to this.. and have fun cos its an unreal feeling when you get it right.

bizzuck · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593

3. and if i would have taken any longer i might not have tried anymore Laughing

the second one i tried i somehow pulled down to blind 90.... i thought that i had broke both of my knees Shocked

ghettolake415 · Posted: Apr 20, 2004 5:27 pm Post subject:

took me about 6 and the falls in the begining aren't that bad. but the worst is what i'm going through right now. i had them consistant for a few days then i started to not land them for some reason and hurt myself. so now i'm in a sense re-learning them and i land them sometimes but i dont' try them nearly as much. and when i do sometimes i pus out cuting in and hurt myself worse then if i woudla went all out and landed it.

wakeboardpro10 · Outlaw Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 218 City: OC

i did mine in like 10-15 tries
you mostly just have to go for it and hope you land it

jjaire · Outlaw Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 105 City: SO*MN

believe it or not i landed my first one ever tried, my fat retired wakeboarder brother explained the procedure to me and i took it straight to the water, i fell many times after that attempting to dial it in, but it was honestly the easiest trick for me to learn and is the easiest to do of all my tricks. raileys are loads of fun and look by far the coolest when other tricks are added to them

cuba · Newbie Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Posts: 7 City: San Angelo

south,
I tried my first one yesterday. I cut hard, aimed for the wake about 1 foot ferther back than I usually hit it. Once I hit the wake, I relaxed my hips and I couldn't believe I was actually doing a railey. Here's where it went wrong. Some how I ended up in a roll. I bailed out and landed in a diveing position. So far none of my spills have been painful, but all my attempt end up in a roll or twisting. I think I might be letting go and this is causing the roll but I'm not sure. I know I've felt tention on my arms while twisting and out of shape. Like I said, it starts out great then even before I start to pull in the rope, I get all screwed up in the air. I wrote to you, because of all the post on this subject, I read about the bad wrecks and it almost makes me want to stop trying them. But like you said, most wrecks are overrated. This is the only thing thats going to get me out there to try one again. I see the potential for pain and hope I can avoid it, but for now, I'll take any advice for getting the board back under me.
Thanks

SB_Boarder · Posted: May 03, 2004 10:35 am Post subject:

4th time. All it took was to cut as wide and as hard as i could, then i stomped it. At first i wasn't taking near a big enough cut.

jjaire · Outlaw Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 105 City: SO*MN

cuba, spot the boat after you take off and it will keep you from rotating Shocked

cuba · Newbie Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Posts: 7 City: San Angelo

jjaire,
I'll give a shot today after work
Thanks!

rybassett17 · Addict Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 562 City: Cadillac

My problem was that I kept spiing like opposite sbend because I would look away from the baot and started coming down krpyt which wasn't the best feeling in the world when I landed

colefooter · Posted: May 13, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject:

Just keep positive because if you are all scared bout the landing and junk you will face plant and that feels like crap. Be sure to keep your head up, dont look at the water.

savage3221 · Posted: May 24, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject:

a way to keep your head up is to watch the tower/boat/rope to keep from looking elsewhere

grafik · Newbie Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 47 City: Tamworth, UK

Raleys arent all that hard to learn in terns of the mechanics. Its just about confidence.

Keep the rope tight and when you pop off the wake just let your legs go up. *Always* look at the tower and as soon as you feel the snap in the air bring that rope down to your hips as quick as you can. Spot your landing, cushion yourself and then ride away with a huge smile.

Scuba Steve · Newbie Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 10

Another big problem that people have is not jumping off their toes. IF YOU JUMP OFF YOUR TOES IT WILL THORW THE BOARD DIRECTLY BEHIND YOU.
The whole time during the trick you should be looking at the boat.
Once you leave the wake keep your arms and chest out.
Be ready for a heavy tug and yank that rope down to your knees HARD. This is where most people mess up and crash. You gotta use some muscle and really give the handle a tug, other wise it’s a high speed belly flop.
Good luck. Wink

Elevation · Posted: May 29, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject:

scuba steve, what do you mean by jump off your toes. i have heard you arent supposed to jump your just supposed to cut hard and the board will pop behind you

Scuba Steve · Newbie Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 10