Looking to buy this boat,, brand new 04 mobius lsv loaded

jamesbburgess · Newbie Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 47

Ok a local dealer has this boat,, its a brand new 04 mobius lsv.. options are as follows.

3 tone paint,
heater
perfect pass
hydrolic wake plate
pop up cleats
dual axle trailer
swing tounge hitch
320 horse motor
3 bag ballast system
am/fm/cd mp3 player
plus all the usual standard stuff, tower ect..

i priced all of this on the moomba website and its at around 42k.. anyway this is priced at 39,900 which will be like 42k out the door with tax ect. anyway what would you guys do? i could probably find a few year old wakesetter similarly equipped with 200 hrs or so for a similar price but i really would rather have something brand new. ive done alot of reading on the mobius lsv and have read very very postive things. so if im making a mistake please tell me quick cause if not im gonna go get this boat on wednesday.

Thanks

Dave W · Posted: May 02, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject:

All personal preference. Personally I don't think I'd ever buy a boat brand new, I'd be too freaked out about putting any little scratch or ding in a brand new boat. That's why I prefer used. Someone else already stressed about the scratches and dings.

But if I won the lottery, I'd be all over a brand new wakeboard boat that was pimped out in every conceivable way.

New or used the choice is yours. Either way, that's a sweet looking Mobius. If you do get it, enjoy it. It looks sweet.

midwesty · Posted: May 02, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject:

damn...sharp boat...can i ask where you are located? i would say run with it bro

jamesbburgess · Newbie Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 47

The boat is in SLC utah, i live in cedar city utah which is right by st george.. i ride mostly at lake powell i have a houseboat over there. there is also a few small lakes here that we ride at. we even make the trip to lake mead in the early and late seaons.

i think im gonna go with it. Smile

andrew james · Addict Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 889 City: austin, tx

Yea, that's a dope looking mobius. As long as it's a good dealer, i'd go for it as well.

Jealous, party of one Smile

Broccoli B · Posted: May 02, 2004 8:34 pm Post subject:

i ordered one with a few more options, also got it for less, knock them down a little.

Bruky · Guest

i have only heard good things about the mobius. it is easily up to par with malibus even if it is 10 grand cheaper. no gimmick, low overhead, and a great boat.

Wkerat · Soul Rider Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 317

Seems high for a moomba, I bought my 04 vlx whcih is similarly optioned out for around 42,000...

Bill Y Bob · Posted: May 02, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject:

jamesbburgess, What dealer are you gonna get it from?

Xaggerate · Outlaw Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 135 City: SLO/Poway

jamesbburgess · Newbie Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 47

The dealer is marine products in salt lake.. I would have liked to price the same thing at a few dealers but i am unaware of any others in the area. I just put in my location on the moomba website and they sent me their info. They seem like a stand up company, they have been quick to answer my questions and stuff like that. If you have any other suggestions of a place in the area to check i would be all for it.

on the lake powell question. last year you could still drive between castlerock but it was wakeless only and only about 30 feet acrossed, the last time i was out was in september but im told after that you couldnt get through at all and had to go around. which sucks cause we always go to padrea bay which with the houseboat is now like a 3 hour drive. we have our houseboat for a week every month in the summer and pretymuch anytime we want in the winter, i usually get 3 weeks or so out there each summer. hopefully with an actual wakeboard boat i can improve my skillz!! then again i dont know what i will have for an excuse for not landin the tantrum now!!!

Schmo · Posted: May 03, 2004 6:18 am Post subject:

Does seem a tad high.

I got my 04 Mobius XLV (23'er) for 39,995 plus tax. It came with:

340hp MPI Engine
heater
depth finder
wakeboard racks
CIPA mirror
stainless rub rail
perfect pass
hydrolic wake plate
pop up cleats
dual axle trailer
shower
3 bag ballast system
am/fm/cd mp3 player
subwoofer
amp
tonneau and cockpit covers

jamesbburgess · Newbie Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 47

Where did you get yours? i would like to contact at least 1 other dealer and have them price the same thing so i at least had some comparison and some room to haggle with them. please give me a phone number for where you got your 23' with all that stuff for 39900, cause thats exactly what im paying and mines only the lsv. i would like to have them price the same.

thanks

kennethl · Addict Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 635 City: Champaign

Looks like a nice boat but I'm with Wkerat and Schmo, it seems a bit high $ but then this is peak season and your not going to find the deals like you would in October-November.

If you decide to go with that price I would come strait out and tell the dealer that you know you can find it for less somewhere else-- but your willing to pay a little more to know they (the dealer) will always be there to provide first class service to keep you on the water.

trammill · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 389 City: Georgetown

JamesB. - ordered my 04 LSV from the boat show this year with all of the same options you have except I got the extended warranty, 800 watt amp, tower speakers, and boardracks. Paid 35k out the door. Its my second boat and I am friends with my dealer and I am in Kentucky which is alot closer to the factory in Tn., but 39k seems a little too high.... I would say 39k out the door is a little better deal..

jamesbburgess · Newbie Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 47

Im thinking imight go with this one instead.. he wants 34000 and it has basically the very same setup.. only 47 hrs on it..

http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=23164&highlight=mobius

what do u guys think? save the 8 grand for the very same setup.. only a few hours.

Zedaboarder · Newbie Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 1

I recently purchased a Tige 22V Riders Edition after extensive research and shopping over the past year. I learned alot from that experience. I don't think it matters too much which boat you buy, as long as you like it and are comfortable with your purchase. In general, all of the wakeboard/ski boat companies make pretty damn nice boats. In order for me to get the level of comfort needed to spend $40K plus on a boat, I needed to test drive them. After test driving new boats that fit my budget constraints, the choice was pretty clear. I bought the boat that my wife and I liked the most. Our criteria included wake characteristics (size and shape), ride comfort (rough water), boat size, and dealer. My opinion (take it or leave it) is that you should test drive and pay particular attention to rough water capabilities since you indicated Lake Powell as the lake that you frequent. Rough water can be an issue there. Good luck with your purchase. That Moomba looks great. Take er for a run on the lake.

kennethl · Addict Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 635 City: Champaign

jamesbburgess, That certainly seems more reasonable. It won't take you long to put 50 hrs on anything you bought new.

Couple of things come immediatly to mind -why is he selling it 47 hrs? Whats involved with the 50 hr service? probibly not much $150?, will the warrenty transfer?

Have it inspected.. compresion tested, have someone put the diagnostic computer on it, you might even be able to still see how it was driven during breakin.

trammill · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 389 City: Georgetown

JamesB- I like the Black GG LSV and if I hadn't ordered my boat at the boat show... and it wasn't on the other side of the country, I would definately have to check that boat out. Seems like a great deal.... Let us know how it turns out.

peca · Addict Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 640 City: Mt. Pocono, PA

Broccoli B · Posted: May 03, 2004 2:19 pm Post subject:

Peca, What makes them "A LOT" better?

kennethl · Addict Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 635 City: Champaign

oh boy.. here we go..

peca · Addict Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 640 City: Mt. Pocono, PA

alright now take a look at boats like moomba's then look at malibu's... the malibu's are made with higher quality materials all around. they have a better finish. they are built stronger and are most likely more reliable and going to last longer due to all the technology put into them. they obviously throw a better wake than a moomba. i mean take a look at any pictures. i personally think moomba's have a very bad design to them. I think malibu has a more complete look to it. look at moomba's 4 years ago. they look like stuff if you ask me. plus malibu has a lot better name going for them than moomba will ever have because they are a lower quality boat designed for people who can't afford a higher priced boat.

sorry if anyone gets pissed about this post. its just how i feel about these two boats when comparing them.

andrew james · Addict Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 889 City: austin, tx

Can you give examples of what malibu does to make their boats "stronger"? Or are you just spouting off junk that you have heard other people say, who also don't have first hand experience with the building process of the boat?

Schmo · Posted: May 03, 2004 4:01 pm Post subject:

Wkerat · Soul Rider Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 317

Peca is right on most points...Motor wise you won't see a ton of difference since pcm, indmar, and mercury are all good. BUT having owned both a Moomba and a Malibu (as well as mastercraft's and nautiques) I can tell you there is a difference. All boats are built in a similar manner, it is the materials used, the time in the mold, the quality of mold (boats pulled per wax), etc that make a good boat. Moomba is a value for the money but at 39 you are in the area of vlx's as well as other boats and there is a difference, try quality of vinyl, carpet, gel to name a few. everyone will have a favorite boat and think it is the best, but there are many things that people don't know or see. Also, all boats look great when new...So Peca is not totally ignorant. Skiers choice makes a good boat, but if they make moomba just as high of quality as supra and with the same materials(which is their Higer line) then why should anyone buy a supra over a moomba. All peca was saying is if you want the moomba try to get the price down, but also look at the dealer since that makes a huge difference, you can buy a X-star at a stuff dealer and hate it and buy a no-name brnad at a great dealer and love it. All boats break, it is inevitable, but a good dealer makes it less painful in the end...Good luck with the boat and I would say try for 35,000 on it and you will be happy as can be, but you are better paying a few thousand more for the NEW NEW boat compared to a Used one with 40 hours mainly because you get the full warranty...

Bruky · Guest

great post wkerat! i couldnt disagree with that in the smallest way, the dealer makes the difference!

jamesbburgess · Newbie Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 47

Thanks for all the input guys, after careful consideration i decided to save the 6 grand and go with the 03 gg edition. he sent me a ton of pics and it seem to be in immaculate shape, not to mention it has a few additional options, aka bimini top, 10" sub and stuff like that. Ill let everyone know how it turns out

thanks again for all those that gave their advise..

Broccoli B · Posted: May 04, 2004 10:05 am Post subject:

Moomba uses the same engines, the same Transmissions and V-Drives as "the big 3". The same vinyl, running gear, insturmention. High quality stereo systems. They do take some cost-cutting measures, but nothing that compromises the quality of the boat. They wax their molds between every boat. Your ignorance Peca actually turns people off to malibu, not make people think they're the god of boats.

Your ignorance is even more proven when you say that moombas are made for people that can't afford "better" boats.

Dutch · Addict Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 589

You'll like the 03 GG edition. That's what I have.

peca · Addict Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 640 City: Mt. Pocono, PA

Brocolli B, it's true... in a way. they use lower quality products to bring their prices down.

lake lizzard · Newbie Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 11

who are the big 3 ?

kyle · Guest

for 42k you can get an X-2 with a decent amount of goodies or a VLX, i would shop around

alwaysriding247 · Newbie Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 2

Spyplane8 · Outlaw Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 228

ALWAYSRIDING247, You definatelly need to think before you post. JAMESBURGESS I can tell you that the 03 GG LSV was not in the shop and has not had parts swapped out of it. Unless you have been hiding in C-REDS shop ALWAYSRIDING247. Are you in Boise Idaho???? Dont post false information especially after someone just drove 9.5 hours to pick up a boat and dropped a large check.