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freefall Newbie

Joined: 16 Aug 2003 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject: Tower lights |
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I have a Monster Tower and I want to put lights on it. Any of you have ideas or have pictures of tower light ... not the ones you buy but home made ones.
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DiyGuy Soul Rider

Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 460
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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Build one yourself! Those lights (above) are Hella Optilux Mod 1502 - $50 per pair. Get a piece of aluminum pipe or mount them directly to the tower. You're looking at < $200 easy for the whole thing!
Or you could do it with some aluminum pipe $15 and a couple of 2 1/2 inch clamps a hell of a lot cheaper than that as shown.
DIY like these!

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freefall Newbie

Joined: 16 Aug 2003 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Thats what i was thinking of doing... i wanted to get a few ideas from guys that built one themselfs. The one in the picture looks good. They sell these things at ridiculous prices.
If there is more of you out there please send ideas and pictures!
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darty Addict


Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 522 City: Lexington
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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| where can i find the clamps?
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Fishmaster Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 1112 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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The clamps above come from ChassisShop, there is a link and also light bar project links at www.diyTower.com Tower lights are slow moving products which is why they are pricey.
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DiyGuy Soul Rider

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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a link to the lights. They are $50 a pair, Free Shipping! So, if you wanted six (good number), that's $150. They come with relays (nice), but I would not use thier wiring harness - built more for a automobile system.
Here is a link CLICK HERE
And, Yes - the prices are outrageous. That's why I built my entire light and speaker bar.
Everything you see, including speakers, cans, lights, clamps, the whole thing - ~$450-$500 max.

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JANSEN Outlaw

Joined: 15 Oct 2003 Posts: 101 City: LYNNWOOD
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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Is it true, tower lights do not do much but look good? I been told that they are to high to see where you are going, both for drivinng and boarding.
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DiyGuy Soul Rider

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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Well....I suppose all in the eyes of the beholder. It's certaintly BLING BLING, or PIMP, if you prefer.
They are handy for loading up on the trailer or docking, but there is a fair amount of glare off of them.
We are NEVER boarding or skiing at night, so the reverse lights are used for something completely different. I use them as signals to the guy at the end of the rope. Constant ON - means target speed is being maintained. Flash Once - Turning Left, Flash Twice - Turning Right. Lights OFF - go figure!
You can make them useful or useless - depends on what you want them for.
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darty Addict


Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 522 City: Lexington
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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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thanx monster
i like to surf @ night, so they're absolutely perfect, and they do throw a pretty good light out on the wake while wakeboarding...but its kinda like landing blind ('cause you basically are, it does give you a good orientation though...)
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finkle Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Mar 07, 2004 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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would it be best to use ACTUAL fog lamps, ya know, amber lights. Would those project a better beam that doesn't blind you or simply bounce of the water?
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JANSEN Outlaw

Joined: 15 Oct 2003 Posts: 101 City: LYNNWOOD
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Posted: Mar 08, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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DiyGuy,
Thanks. Have you ever used the docking lights under the rub rail? Are they better for driving at night vs. tower lights?
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NHeckerson Outlaw

Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 104 City: Manhattan
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Posted: Mar 08, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Remember that docking/tower lights are illegal to use in most states at speed. In most states you can only legally use these lights for docking, as you can only have nav (red/green and stern) while moving at speed. But I agree, they are pimp.
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chane Criminal

Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 99 City: Midland, Texas
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Posted: Mar 09, 2004 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the tip on those lights DiyGuy!
Anyone know where to get a cheap peice of square tubing similar to the Mako above?
I ordered the clamps from Raul so all I need is something to mount them to.. I also plan to add a small 360° nav light in the middle.
DiyGuy, why not use the included wiring? What do you recommend?
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DiyGuy Soul Rider

Joined: 26 Dec 2003 Posts: 460
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Posted: Mar 09, 2004 7:52 am Post subject: |
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You will see when you get the lights. They come with a pretty cheezy setup and the wires just are not long enough to route into/thru a pipe. I too have looked high and low for some of that flat tube aluminum... drew a blank.
Here is a pic of the modification to the lights wiring I did.

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gundogg Newbie

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mar 09, 2004 9:34 am Post subject: square tubing |
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If you are looking for different aluminum tubing or sheets and don't need much, then try this place. I found them on DC Tech's website, when looking for speaker clamps.
http://www.onlinemetals.com/
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chane Criminal

Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 99 City: Midland, Texas
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Posted: Mar 09, 2004 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks! I think I'll try around here local first. Should be cheap for like 3'..
Someone tell me where to get some LED cockpit lights like this and I'll be set!
How long is your setup DiyGuy?
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D O double G Outlaw


Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Posts: 235 City: G-vine
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Posted: Mar 10, 2004 11:44 am Post subject: |
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chane, Email Brian at Mako.... get on your knees... grovel, beg, and plead... bribes are good too.
On that note, asking how long DIY's setup is kinda personal, dontcha think??
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DiyGuy Soul Rider

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Posted: Mar 10, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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According to MY measurement, it's exactly 4 feet, but the lovely Mrs. swares it isn't even close to half of that!
As she was walking back inside, I heard a mumble..."in your dreams A**hole"!
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Wakeside1 Outlaw

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Posted: Mar 10, 2004 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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We will offer LED cockpit lights very soon. They will attach to tower clamps and can be aimed slightly. We will announce availability on our news blog "Wakeside News" when we add the item.
The Mako 4 Speaker Light Combo has cool LED down lights. We just did a custom set of the Mako 2 Speaker Light Combo with LED's this week.
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Wakeside1 Outlaw

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Posted: Mar 10, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think halogen would be far too bright for a tower mounted cockpit down light. LED's like on the Mako 4 Speaker Light Combo bar is the way to go.
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chane Criminal

Joined: 12 Aug 2003 Posts: 99 City: Midland, Texas
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Posted: Mar 11, 2004 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Those look a little too big/bright.. The Mako ones are expensive. If money was no object, I would just order one.
I am thinking that if it is dark enough to need a dome light, then the other 6 tower lights should provide enough light for the cockpit..
I found a deal on the Hella Optilux 1502's @ $30 a pair!
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DiyGuy Soul Rider

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Posted: Mar 11, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Chane
WHERE did you get $30 a pair from?
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tmorton Newbie

Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 4 City: Corinth
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Posted: Mar 11, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: LED Lights |
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Found a couple of links while out searching around. I am guessing it might be possible to replace the standard bulb with one of these LED bulbs.
I am also interested in where to get some of those Hella's for 30 Bucks.
DIYguy I live about 5 min north of Lake Dallas. I would like to pick your brain sometime on the lightbar setup.
HTH
http://www.superbrightleds.com/1157.htm
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Broccoli B Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Mar 12, 2004 8:52 am Post subject: |
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DIYGuy: Where did you buy the wiring for all this stuff. If possible, could you write up or draw up a schematic of your wiring? Thanks!
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DiyGuy Soul Rider

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Posted: Mar 13, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Re-wiring the Hella Lights is actually very easy. Home Depot, Radio Shack, any Electronics Store would have what you need.
Rubber Gromets - About 5 cents each 1/4 in - for the replacement of the grommet that comes with the lights and for the tube/pipe of whatever you run the other ends into.
1/4 inch Split Loom Plastic Tubing - about $3.00 for 10 feet of it. That's what you wrap your wires in.
16 ga wire red/black - $6.00 each roll / 50 ft ea - more than you will need - cut the plug connectors off the lights and solder about 8 inches of red/black wire, then cover in shrink wrap.
Now, take the 1/4 split loom tubing and run your lights wires through them and into each end of the rubber grommet. Push the grommets in place - Wa-Lah
Now, Hooking it all up to come on and go off and anything else inbetween takes a bit more explanation.

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DiyGuy Soul Rider

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Posted: Mar 14, 2004 9:37 am Post subject: |
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TM
Good Find! Also see you found TexasTowers for the alum pipe! Sort of a crusty bunch over there - been there 3 times. You DID get the right size... It's the lighther weight pipe, but it will work perfectly.
Let me know if you need to get that pipe polished out to make it look like chrome. I've got the buffing wheels and the best rouge I could find. Takes about 45 min to sand down then polish.

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