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danbrett Soul Rider


Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 439 City: Phila. Suburbs
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Posted: Feb 16, 2004 10:11 am Post subject: confused |
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I get confused, tell me if im right...
Tanrum- like a backflip on a trampoline
Backroll- head goes twoards the rear sholder and feet come up for the flip
Which ones easier and do you have to hit on a certain edge? |
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dizzyj Soul Rider

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Posts: 485 City: Austin, Tx
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Posted: Feb 16, 2004 11:08 am Post subject: |
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yup,
tantrum = backflip
backroll = no hands cartwheel
a hs backroll is easiest, and needs a progressive edge.
a hs tantrum is next easiest, and needs a trip edge (or somthing like that).
easy is relative, I can do neither  |
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pooser Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738
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Posted: Feb 16, 2004 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| a ts backroll is like a backflip on the trampoline anda hs backroll is a weird backwards off axis cartwheel. |
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bluefish86 Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1539 City: Ottawa
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Posted: Feb 16, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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HS tantrum looks like a trampoline backflip.
A TS backroll also looks like a trampoline backflip.
An HS backroll looks kind of like a cartwheel, but at the same time not. Here's a video of an HS backroll and it's variant, the mexican roll: http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=6582 |
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Nathan Newman Addict

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor
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Posted: Feb 17, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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yup. you guys got it right... _________________ The consciousness of self is the greatest hindrance to the proper execution of all physical action.
-Bruce Lee
An eye for an eye will make the world blind.
-Gandhi
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees.
-Che Guevera |
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danbrett Soul Rider


Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 439 City: Phila. Suburbs
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Posted: Feb 19, 2004 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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thanks _________________ it puts the joe dirt in the whole |
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darty Addict


Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 522 City: Lexington
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Posted: Feb 21, 2004 7:37 am Post subject: |
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danbrentt - whichever rotation you think would be easier for you would be the easiest trick for you. I learned a tantrum WAY before i learned a backroll...its just all in what you're comfortable with. I guess I understood the tantrum better than the backroll (body positioning and edging) and it just came more naturally. Have a go at both of them and decide which you felt more comfortable doing...good luck!
peace
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Blusanity55 Newbie

Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 34
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Posted: Feb 22, 2004 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| yea tantrum came with a lot fewer crashes before i landed one compared to the backroll which was brutal...i still havent landed one but have come very close...still sliding them out |
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Sportster4Tec Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 26 Apr 2003 Posts: 1237 City: Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted: Feb 26, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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A backroll is also sort of like a sideways gainer. A gainer is a flip you can do off a tramp or a diving board where you jump forward and do a backflip.
Many people think the backroll is easier because it uses the same progressive edge used on regular wake to wake jumps. The trantrum actually has an easier rotation, it's jsut you have to use a trick flip edge to start the rotation. _________________ www.krookedminds.com
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finkle Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 4067
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Posted: Feb 26, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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A backroll is also sort of like a sideways gainer. A gainer is a flip you can do off a tramp or a diving board where you jump forward and do a backflip.
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that would be a toeside backroll
a hs backroll is a sidewayz flip. _________________
| Best Quote Ever wrote: | | 'No regrets', that's my motto.....well, that and 'everybody wang chung tonight' |
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BLiNDSiDER Criminal


Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 59 City: SYDNEY
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Posted: Mar 02, 2004 12:48 am Post subject: |
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is a Tantrum a frontroll
i got no idea how you remember all these names for these tricks lol i get so confused _________________ |-|YP∑RĽ17∑ |
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MissJade Soul Rider


Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 486 City: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mar 02, 2004 6:45 am Post subject: |
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a tantrum is a flip, not a roll. It's like doing a layout in gymnastics.
Technically, a tantrum is easier because you don't really have to think about much, whereas a backroll is a bit more technical. BUT, in my progression, I found it easier to start with the backroll mostly because I was scared about turning my back to the wake and you come in with more speed, so it's scarier. If you try either one, the other will come easily because you're already used to going upside down. Just my 2cents. |
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bluefish86 Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1539 City: Ottawa
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Posted: Mar 02, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| BLiNDSiDER, go to the video section of this site: http://www.wakeboard.com.sg . It has clips of just about every trick there is. I find it's a lot easier to learn the names of tricks by seeing them than by hearing a definition. Also check the longer video Got Wake (at the same site). It shows all kinds of tricks starting with the most basic going to more advanced ones, with subtitled trick names. |
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BLiNDSiDER Criminal


Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 59 City: SYDNEY
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Posted: Mar 04, 2004 4:10 am Post subject: |
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thanks bluefish86 that helped alot im getting there lol _________________ |-|YP∑RĽ17∑ |
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