Liquid Force steals Collective Developments bindings

Kyle Murphy · Newbie Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 2 City: valley center

Liquid Force has taking Collective Developments brace and slapped some material on there old heel and toe pieces creating an unoriginal binding.

anti-shoobies · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 10:24 am Post subject:

Yeah know Kyle Murphy, I was thinking the exact same thing. I just didn't want to be he one to start all the ruckus.

Kyle Murphy · Newbie Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 2 City: valley center

anti-shoobies,
more people need to vioce there opinion

degraafics · Guest

Let me see, let me see.

Post a picture.

I can't find my [take me to another web site] button.

Maestro · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 11:01 am Post subject:

Which binding would this be?

NAW · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 11:10 am Post subject:

There's lots of equipment in this industry that was borrowed/stolen/adapted from other companies. Without a patent, there really isn't any recourse. But it sucks nonetheless.

Nick Taylor · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject:

picture, name, website... ?

Sbt3 · Soul Rider Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 279 City: Okauchee

First off who really cares, Next have you seen the CD Harris bindings, if I even thought about wearing that disgusting looking thing I would hope someone would perform a mercy killing on me. I mean come on.
Personally I think LF has quality bindings and half the companies out there are doing similar things. Don't worry about what a comany does if you don't like their products, it is very simple don't buy them!

RUSSIAN · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject:

would you like to see a company stealing from the one you work for?

Josh R · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 3:47 pm Post subject:

salmon_tacos · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 4:54 pm Post subject:

Industry drama is annoying. If an idea isn't just an obvious evolution of current technology, they should patent it! If they don't, either it isn't patentable, they don't care, or they are stupid and deserve to lose it.

"This company is better!" "They stole that design from them!" "That looks too much like that!" "That company sucks for patenting something!" "That's the only true whatever!" "I can't believe that guy is selling out!" "Core!" "Not core!"

Rolling Eyes

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject:

Kyle Murphy, First of all if your not kyle murphy, its lame to make someone looks like a punk on this board. And if you are. Its pretty low to come on a website and bash another company because they have a similar idea. If your really kyle never again will I think anything good of you. I'll respect your riding, but not you as a person...

electricsnow · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject:

One post on a message board is not necessarily a good judge of character. There's more to life than this message board...

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject:

electricsnow, when you stoop low enough to bash another company, then I dont have any respect for you

Its one thing to promote a sponsor, its another thing to bash another company to promote

Josh R · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject:

Tyler~Moore, What the hell? 'You'll never respect him as a person?' I'm sorry, but are you retarded?

He posts once about being pissed of about something in the industry, and he's some sort of lowlife, bad person? "never again will I think anything good of you"... WHY? Whats the f*cking reasoning behind this? Because he isn't scared to come out and say something? Wow, what a horrible, horrible man. Better not let him near any children... He might just voice an opinion!

If Kyle is a punk for his posts, then you're a goddamn criminal.

electricsnow · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject:

I'm not trying to get into a fight here, but wakeboarding (and this message board) is a very small facet of life. You may not agree with how he's dealing with this (I'm sure many people feel that way) but that doesn't make him a bad person. You have no Idea how he treats his friends, family, what he cares about, etc. and those are the things in life that really matter, not wakeboarding politics.

Josh!! (Ahem) G'day mate! (Did I get that accent right?)

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 7:14 pm Post subject:

Josh R, talking about me repsonding to his post for stateing his opinion, your getting mad at me for saying mine. I DONT RESPECT HIM! thats my opinion, so get over it. Im sure you dont agree, so what...

electricsnow, I'll never meet the guy, so I see what I think of him based off what I see. I sont care how he treats his friends and family...

Josh R · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject:

Thats all I can possibly respond to your post with... Anything more would be a waste.

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject:

Josh R, Im glad to see you think enough of me to respond. You talk about pro ho this pro ho that. But if he was a regular person you know you'd bash him. So go have fun withnyour pros and I'll state what I feel...

DRAGON88 · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 7:34 pm Post subject:

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

god damn....everyone is so damn edgy this week. how about we all just take a few deep breaths and calm down.

then again its kinda fun to see how wound up people get over the stupidest things (like randall moving to FL and murray supposedly leaving HL)

RUSSIAN · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject:

Tyler~Moore, why don't you come back and tell us how you feel when you grow up Rolling Eyes

Why shouldn't someone be pissed if they think the company they work for is being robbed

I think it's immature and very close minded that you can judge someones character based on 2 posts on a wakeboard message board

BillJ · Posted: Feb 06, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject:

It's really strange to see Kyle accusing LF of stealing from CD considering how many friends he has at LF (both here and on WakeWorld). To me it's just kind of sad.

Stephan · Guest

Yeah, on the Wakeworld post Don Wallace of LF comes out and asks him why he's saying this and basically says that he's dissing a lot of his friends in the process. So perhaps it does actually say something about his personal character because

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

...of course you guys are automatically assuming that this person is actually kyle murphy.

BillJ · Posted: Feb 07, 2004 1:18 am Post subject:

Don posted a follow-up on WW and said that he talked to the real Kyle Murphy and that he is not the one that posted these messages. Interesting.

nmballa · Posted: Feb 07, 2004 6:44 am Post subject:

Not the real kyle Murphy. Hmmmm... A frame up. I think we have a conspiracy here.

salmon_tacos · Posted: Feb 07, 2004 6:54 am Post subject:

By his profile, it is obvious that this is not just another Kyle Murphy so if he is not the Kyle Murphy that everyone thought he was, he is actually trying to impersonate someone else.

Really, this is a form of identity theft and IMO it's the worst offense you could commit on a message board. Pat should ban him and lock the account so that no more damage can be done to the real Kyle Murphy.

Same thing should be done over at WakeWorld.

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Feb 07, 2004 7:11 am Post subject:

DRAGON88, how does what Josh have given to the sport effect the way I feel about the guys post. Josh could be the the best photographer, and videographer out there. And if he bashes me for my opinion, then Im gonna call him out.

RUSSIAN, I think its immature of him to come on here and bash another company. There are alot of people in this world who are immature. Im sure you've had your moments. Everyone has. Maybe this was his. But until I see other wise thats how I feel. And if I met him in person and he was cool. I'd apologize....

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

salmon_tacos, haha the best part is some people have his back Smile

electricsnow · Posted: Feb 07, 2004 9:27 am Post subject:

And I don't regret it jim--I gave him the benefit of the doubt so laugh all you want.

Stephan, I'm not quite sure I have understood your post, but I can assure you that I have better things to do with my time than stir up a sh!+ pot on here. Yeah, judgements and assumptions are ALWAYS good things.

Stephan · Guest

I was just pointing out that if this was in fact THE Kyle Murphy then he was going against what you said were important. If it was actually him, well then his friend came out and said "what up?". Basically you were saying this comment has no bearing on how he treats those close to him when in all actuality it did.

The one on WW is gone so I guess we can't see what Wallace said over their. Ban the boy for life! Pat release the hounds!!!! Twisted Evil

electricsnow · Posted: Feb 07, 2004 12:22 pm Post subject:

I concur! It's a double edged sword--on the one hand, he's defending his employers and a company he believes in, but on the other hand he is hurting his friends that ride/work for liquid (of course, for this scenario we are assuming it is kyle).

I'd like a post from the real kyle, if in fact this guy is an imposter. It would be a way to get some answers (some that are not so obvious)...

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

electricsnow, so if some other random guy shows up here and claims he is kyle murphy would you believe him? you really have to assume that any claims of this nature would be dealt with through CD's legal people and not with a bunch of b.s. on some websites.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

I thought Dave and Don Wallace concurred on ww.com that this cornhole is a fibber so this is all a moot point, why would Kyle need to answer?