perfect pass or no?

Ruune · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 8:27 pm Post subject: perfect pass or no?

I'm getting an '04 22v and I was wondering about perfect pass... From what I know, it seems like a cruise control for pulling skiers- primarily for inexperienced drivers that dont know how to hold a constant speed. It may just be me, but I dont want an inexperienced driver pulling me... let alone driving my brand new $45k boat! This being said, wouldnt that negate the need for spending an extra grand or so on this?
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Funkster · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 8:29 pm Post subject:

Ruune, for sure!! Dont leave the lot without it..trust me!!!

BIGMAC · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 8:32 pm Post subject:

Once you have it you will never look back!!!

Ruune · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 8:40 pm Post subject:

hmmm... when I setup my demo w/ Damon, I'll have to check it out. Shocked

Funkster · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 8:44 pm Post subject:

Ruune, even if you are an experianced driver, it make's the time out on the water alot more relaxing. Def check it out,you will not be disapointed.

Ruune · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 8:51 pm Post subject:

good point... I'm still not gonna let N00bs drive my boat though! Laughing

Eric Golsan · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 8:57 pm Post subject:

I would absolutely get it. With that being said I believe a experienced driver can do as good or better than PP. But you will won't to ride sometime......

Ruune · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 9:02 pm Post subject:

true... I've already got friends that can drive tho Razz

Well, I'll prolly regret not getting it... so might as well, right? Also, I'd be willing to bet that once I use it, I'll never want to go back... like you said!

Ralph · Posted: Oct 21, 2003 10:46 pm Post subject:

I disagree Eric, a properly tuned PP will out perform a good driver every hour every day.

MissJade · Soul Rider Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 486 City: Austin, TX

Definitely go with the perfect pass. I have a lot more fun driving with it than without it.

UncleGianni · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 5:35 am Post subject:

GET IT -

BIGMAC · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 6:34 am Post subject:

Ralph, I agree!!! I have been pulled by some great drivers but they still don't compare to a well tuned perfect pass!!!

Ruune · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 6:53 am Post subject:

how much of a pain in the butt is it to tune?

Jeffro · Addict Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 659 City: Austin, Texas

experienced or not, you will thank yourself for getting it. It just makes pulling hassle free and allows you to enjoy your time on water that much more.

i'll be adding it to my 21i at the end of the year.

BIGMAC · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 6:58 am Post subject:

No pain at all. Just small adjustments.

Flash · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 7:18 am Post subject:

Buying a towboat without PP is a critical error in judgement. Do not leave the dealership without it. Besides being easier on the driver, and the rider getting the exact pull that rider wants every time, there is the safty issue. At our lake the smooth water can get a little crowded. PP enables the driver to look in front of the boat, (or behind to watch the rider) and not have to keep looking down constantly at the instruments. This is inherently safer for everyone.

Swass · Guest

With the possible exception of a tower, PP should be the first option you select.

Ruune · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 7:33 am Post subject:

Flash... excellent point! I hadnt thought of that... perfect pass it is! Smile

That being said, does anyone know which model PP tige installs? I'm assuming it's the wakeboard pro, but I'm curious enough to know for sure.

GYMBOARDER · Outlaw Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 123 City: Fresno

Get it. I bought my boat without it because I didn't want to spend the extra grand. A few weeks later I drove one with it, I went home and ordered it and a week later it was in my boat as well. I would never consider buying another boat without it. It makes driving much much easier. Your not constantally moving the throttle to adjust your speed. The system does it automatically.

hitit · Outlaw Joined: 26 Aug 2003 Posts: 178 City: Nor-Cal

Get the perfect pass. It's well worth the money.

BillJ · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 11:38 am Post subject:

I'm sure you could get any version of PP that you want, but they will usually recommend wakeboard pro. That's what I have on my Tige 20v and it's great. A little more expensive that wakeboard cruise but in my opinion it's worth it.

When you get it, take the boat out and calibrate the perfect pass with a gps. That way you know that 22 is really 22.

For wakesurfing Perfect Pass is awesome. And your 22v will put out an incredible wakesurfing wake, just load up the left rear locker with about 1000# and a few guys in the boat and you can surf all day. TAPS at 8 and speed about 10mph.

Eric Golsan · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 2:58 pm Post subject:

Ralph,
Become one with your boat grasshopper Laughing

oshensurfer · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 4:28 pm Post subject:

get the pp. lol Laughing

Ralph · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 7:40 pm Post subject:

Ahhh, Eric you misunderstand, I am one with my boat, its the other morons who drive when I'm riding that I bought PP for! It totally sucks that everybody gets great pulls but the boat owner, but thats the reality for most boats without PP. Also for me it meant that my girl enjoys driving the boat, even when its busy, it takes a lot of the stress out of it for her, just for that alone PP pays for itself twice.

Love your Pro-V by the way.

Ruune · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 9:01 pm Post subject:

Ralph... word.

Eric Golsan · Posted: Oct 22, 2003 9:48 pm Post subject:

Ralph,
Thanks-we love it too. Our second Calabria. Just messin' bro. I agree, PP is so the driver/owner gets a ride in. And for surfing, a must.
Ruune,
Get the PP. Wakeboard Pro version. Paddle wheel is much better than RPM.

BrtnDan · Addict Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 609

We have pp on our X-star and at first i loved it, but then once we started weighting our boat down heavily (1500+lbs) it would always seem to be running slower than what we set it at. It is awesome to have, but we only use it if like, my little brother is pulling me, and even he doesnt use it that much.

BIGMAC · Posted: Oct 25, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject:

BrtnDan, not adjusted coerrectly. You've been mising out!

BIGMAC · Posted: Oct 25, 2003 9:07 pm Post subject:

I can't freakin type today Evil or Very Mad

projectely4 · Posted: Oct 26, 2003 4:36 am Post subject:

i would never have a wakeboard boat with out perfect pass. it will always hold a consistent hold and thhe driver can concentrate on double ups or finding good water. plus with weight in the boat it works just as well.

BrtnDan · Addict Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 609

I'm saying that its just not as responsive as it would be if say, i was driving it. Dont get me wrong, i love Perfect Pass, i would just rather be pulled by a good driver that can react to what i'm doing (ie, about to get worked).

arthropod88 · Outlaw Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 210 City: Birmingham

I cannot wait to have a Boat with PP...hear me out...

I do not want a bad driver either, however, with PP the driver can be more aware of what is going on around and not have to be concerned whether or not heer is pulling you a the correct spped cause he is worrying that you may have a bad run.

I just believe that with ever increasing traffic in out rivers and lakes with the "weekend warriors" I would rather the driver not wory about how my run will be. Let him worry about what is going on with the other traffic and keeping you, the rider, out of harms way. Cool

Mr. Mutt · Posted: Oct 29, 2003 12:32 am Post subject:

So I have mixed feelings about PP. I've been in an X-10 with PP and it's nice on flat water cause you set it and just sit there and make sure you don't hit anything. But on chop or with winds, I find that if the boat is unsettled at all the PP tries to compensate when it doesn't have to, thus overpulling or slacking the rider. I have been on my ride w/o PP and, while nice to have eventually, I'm not going to jump to it. Reasons: a) in flat water, my boat simply tracks. 99 X-star, you throttle to 2300 RPM and it's like the speed is just set. Nothing for PP to do! And in choppy stuff the ride is smoother without it. So I see it really as a luxury for someone who knows how to drive a boat, but good for people who have some people pull them that aren't that savy about keeping speed/music/people in the boat/other boats/shore/docks/buoys all in their head at once.

I will say it's nice when you have to drive other than straight. i.e., it compensates for when you turn or otherwise aren't going perfectly straight.

oshensurfer · Posted: Oct 29, 2003 9:28 am Post subject:

Anyone know if you can buy PP at a discount someplace besides their website?

ssrgeoff · Addict Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 582 City: So Cal

Ruune,
I am in the process of working out a deal with my local Tige dealer as well. What I was told is when my dealer installs the Digital PP it goes right where the current speedo is, replacing it. That option was $1600. They also had a smaller version more like the cruise control in your car that you can mount in an open spot anywhere in the cockpit. Obviously the less desirable of the two and I was told they sell it for $800. Check with your dealer though pricing could be different.