HL Skates vs. Everyone Else

suckmywake · Posted: Sep 10, 2003 6:23 am Post subject: HL Skates vs. Everyone Else

If this was asked before, sorry I searched and couldn't find any topics. ANYWAYS, anyone who has ridden either a catalyst or byerly skate, as well as a cassette, mutiny, etc. What are the pros & cons of each?? How do they compare against each other?? Any input would be great. Thanx.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

I have rode all but the Byerly ( to small )
Pros
Mutiny Endurance 43- Stiffest of them all, best pop for ollies and w2w, nice and wide for no toe/heel drag, durable, and perfect on weight

Hyperlite Catalyst 112/116- Nice foam, the step down rail gives a little grip when finless, durable, nice w2w

Cassette 3D 43- Great concave, nice ollie snap , easy to throw shuvits and lips

Cons-

Mutiny- The stock fins were to big so I ground them down

Hyperlite- The deck was way to flexable, no pop, the rail was to sharp for liptricks the concave doesn't feel right under your feet

Cassette- wood and water don't mix, short life when hitting rails, little to heavy

suckmywake · Posted: Sep 10, 2003 9:38 am Post subject:

Thanx Todd. I ended up grabbing a HL Byerly to try out. I've never ridden an HL wakeskate so I wanna try them out. Loved my cassette, but I wanna try as many wakeskates as possible before settling on what I like. I hope the Byerly isn't too small. I've ridden a 41 and I have a 43 Cassette and the Byerly 107 = 42.1 inches, so I think it would be okay. It seems people who ride the HL decks always get the Catalyst, and people who ride Cassettes get smaller decks. Does it have something to do with the style of the boards working better with different lengths??

DockSecret · Addict Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 756 City: Austin, TX

It's only all about people being big fans of Grubb...Personally Hyperlite should make a smaller skate than the Byerly, they should get that Gate with less channels and make it as small or smaller than the Byerly...

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

The gate is much smaller than the Byerly, the 114 includes the kick tail, the riding surface is much less

DockSecret · Addict Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 756 City: Austin, TX

I understand that part, but still, having those kicktails to make it 114 feel way too big. I wouldn't mind a 107 including kicktails. If Aaron Reed at 180lb can ride a 40 inch board, I'm pretty sure a 130 lb guy like me could ride something a lot smaller.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

true, I am a 195lb guy so the gate looks way to small for me

otiswunguy · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 871 City: Sammamish

I'm 185 and the gate is just fine for me. the catylst 116 is a boat. i wish the hyperlite skates were made a little thinner with molded in fins like the byerly wakeboard. keep the kicktails though, i'm digging them. i really want to try the new mutiny skate, it looks like it rides awesome. they hyperlite skates all feel really slippery compared to the cassettes. to me this sucks.

koltman · Addict Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 902 City: Sydney/Orlando

IMO, the HL boards feel smaller. On a cassette concave 41 I feel really comfortable. but when a tried the Byerly 42 it felt really small. Just my observation.

llenta · Addict Joined: 22 Jul 2003 Posts: 788 City: Davis

if the byerly felt too small for you, try riding a larger size. thats what most people do.
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snoobs · Newbie Joined: 09 Jun 2003 Posts: 44

195 5'9

have the gate and it is fine for me...
also have a 42 4 trac...and thats just fine too.
also have a small kampus and i like how thin and lite it is.....

77 · Posted: Sep 15, 2003 5:45 pm Post subject:

6'3 200 and my Scape 112 is perfect. Want to demop a Mutiny one day though.

Slaytwebeling · Addict Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 892 City: Houston

Got the 4 -trac and love it.

03Belmont · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 4656

Hyperlite is the bestGriptape or foam boards

Josh R · Posted: Sep 23, 2003 7:54 am Post subject:

Stop saying dumb things...

Sportster4Tec · Posted: Sep 23, 2003 4:04 pm Post subject:

What about the grip surfaces on the kampus wakeskates? Then ones were they have some sand mixed with the epoxy on top or the one with like lots of little pieces of rubber mixed. Anyone try these?

Sportster4Tec · Posted: Sep 23, 2003 4:05 pm Post subject:

Just wondering because i am gonna make my own wakeskate and the sand in the epoxy thing would be kind of easy.

B-rad · Posted: Oct 01, 2003 9:32 am Post subject:

The Kampus skates that I tried had grip tape on them and another one had foam. I have heard they used the epoxy mixutre, but have yet to see them in action.

otiswunguy · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 871 City: Sammamish

the more i ride the gate...the more i like it. i put the .7 a wing fins on instead of the huge 1.5's it came with. now it tracks just like i want it to.i have noticed a problem in the design of the kick tails. they are too narrow. on w2w landings i find that every once in a while, my heel or toes catch the water slightly. ollies have never been easier and their durability is unmatched. i love the foam much more than the grip tape on my cassette. here are some pics from earlier today.

otiswunguy · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 871 City: Sammamish

oops one more

Slaytwebeling · Addict Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 892 City: Houston

Otiswunguy- when i first looked at that pick i thought the rope was around you leg. Try glancing at it and you might see. Or maybe its just me Sad

fifeman · Outlaw Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 244

haha, i see it too, that would really suck

Ocean Rider · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 1597

i like hyperlite but something is pullin me toward LF maybe i just want something different

Josh R · Posted: Oct 05, 2003 5:37 pm Post subject:

DJew Jake · Posted: Oct 05, 2003 6:28 pm Post subject:

what about those 484 wakeskates?

Ocean Rider · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 1597

hey Josh R, ya i want cassette but there is no dealers in canada so there is LF

llenta · Addict Joined: 22 Jul 2003 Posts: 788 City: Davis

but you obviously have the internet.
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unlawfulsessioner · Criminal Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 95 City: The SRQ

i ride a catalyst 112 and i love it. its got good pop. slides well too.

wakeriderof87 · Posted: Nov 01, 2003 8:41 pm Post subject:

i've ridden the byerly and the cassette 3d, i like the 3d much more, just feels alot better under your feet. The byerly didn't seem to ride quite as smoothly. Seemed kinda bulky

Inggy · Posted: Nov 01, 2003 11:19 pm Post subject:

Sorry to get off track but that last pic was taken at the PERFECT time. ITs awesome. Blow it up and frame it!!

llenta · Addict Joined: 22 Jul 2003 Posts: 788 City: Davis

wakeriderof87

it's a much thicker skate, thats why it feels more bulky.
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Tyler*Moore · Guest

Im pretty sure if you look close enough you can see some grey infront of his leg. But if it is around his leg that was hurt soo bad...was it around your leg Otiswunguy?

LFADAM · Posted: Nov 30, 2003 3:39 pm Post subject:

Tyler*Moore, When I look at the pic it looks like the rope has a loop in it but isn't around the leg because you can see the whole loop, part of it doesnt dissapear behind his leg