What is a Big Worm

Lyle · Posted: May 21, 2003 10:55 am Post subject: What is a Big Worm

Anyone know what a Big Worm is?

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Toeside frontroll w/ frontside 540, handle held above head for rotation (like a whirly). I can do that trick in my sleep!

..but then I wake up. They look CRAZY, very rare trick to see, its a super fast frontside spin so not many people can spin it without coming up short. Cool trick name too, "WHATS UP BIG WOOOORM"

Rob74 · Criminal Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 90

Like a Toeside Whirlybird...

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

well just the 'hand above the head' part, the rotation is the opposite of a whirly (toeside frontroll vs heelside backflip, frontside spin vs backside spin).

LostCause · Newbie Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 24 City: W$R

So then its pretty much a crow mobe 540 with an overhead spin and not a handle pass right?

Rob74 · Criminal Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 90

Whatever it is, it looks cool.. I think I saw one in Higher Learning Vol 2

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Can Keith Lyman throw a big worm? Thats something I would like to see, his whirly is so huge it looks like slow motion.

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: May 21, 2003 11:27 pm Post subject:

Can you do like big worm 3's or big worm 9's or anything or are they limited to normal big worms? And also is it posible to do a backroll with an overhead 720... if so what is it called???

Lyle · Posted: May 22, 2003 7:03 am Post subject:

That is what I was wondering or it would probably have to be a Mexican Backroll with an over the head 360. Has that been done yet? If not we could name it the Mexican Goat. Hmm. . .I will try one this weekend and see how bad it hurts.

calair03 · Posted: May 24, 2003 12:02 pm Post subject:

There is a picture of one a few months back in WBM sessions. It is done by Mike Harris. It has to be the second best trick I have ever seen besides the double roll 360 by parks.

Sean OBrien · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 165 City: Orlando, FL

Here is a video clip of the Big Worm.

http://photos.wakeboarder.com/showphoto.php?photo=147&password=&sort=7&thecat=509

Sean O'Brien

Nathan Newman · Addict Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 711 City: Baylor

so, it's basically a scarecrow with a 540 instead of a 180.
cool. I'm getting so close to landing my crow Mr. Green

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: May 24, 2003 10:16 pm Post subject:

Yeah, or a crow mobe 540 with an over head 540

Wake-gymnast-steve · Posted: May 26, 2003 6:35 pm Post subject:

o stuff lol... that trick is bad as hell- how do u spin that fast and stay in control??!!

antihero787 · Newbie Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 1

the big wurm isnt exactly a crow ole 5.......ive seen somebody do one.....you throw a huge crow as if you wanted to do a big elephant.......when you are coming down you do the ole 3....its two different motions

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Sep 06, 2003 8:02 pm Post subject:

Yeah i to have seen the pros do it on vids. Yes it is those to tricks but there done in quicker motion right after they do the crow they do the ole 3.

joram · Posted: Sep 06, 2003 8:33 pm Post subject:

There pretty tight

Sean OBrien · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 165 City: Orlando, FL

ok here is the best description of a big worm that you can get.

It is a crow 5 but instead of passing the handle behind your back you pull it up to your head as if you were doing a switch whirly. It is all done in one fluid motion. If you try to throw a crow and then spin an ole 3 at the end you will get hung up in mid air and take an extremely hard fall.

Sean O'Brien

Fauker · Soul Rider Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 471 City: Charlotte

Sean - I watched yours, are you holding on with both hands when you do em?

Id really like to learn one, I can do them on the trampoline easily, its actually my fav trick to do because the tension stays on the line unlike tramp whirlys where its really easy to get a lot of slack in the rope.

I also noticed you took a pretty good cut at it as well, even if you flattened off some at the wake. I can do whirlys behind the boat pretty easily, got any advice on how you went about learning them?

thanks...

kyle · Guest

a few of my friends do big worms, they actually said it was really easy to learn if you are good on the tramp, ive tried them and had some difficulty but i really suck on the tramp, my friend tried a diesel the other day (big worm 7), that was funny

DudeManWes · Criminal Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 96

kyle, a diesel is not a big worm 7. That would be a Big Johnson. A Diesel is a crow mobe without a handle pass. Like a big worm since the handle does go overhead, but you hold on with the opposite hand(front hand). I've only seen two people ever do Diesels and those are Todd Brendel(RIP) and Eric Ruck.

BR_WB · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 2850

My friend has them, he starts off with two hands and spins sooooo fast. I will second Sean...the falls are hard hahah

Fauker · Soul Rider Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 471 City: Charlotte

did Brannon actually land a 'Big Johnson'? Ive never even heard of that before.... and yeah Wes is right on the diesel call, altho Ive never seen one done myself

DudeManWes · Criminal Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 96

Fauker, get a hold of Skurfs Up. Todd does one in there. And Ruck does two diesels in two seperate Wake TVs if I remember right. Not sure of the Issue #'s but one is the Atlanta Pro Wakeboard Tour Stop, and the other is a Worlds at OWC.

toothpick · Posted: Sep 07, 2003 8:07 pm Post subject:

Hey Sean, sweet Big Wurms man, I saw you ride up at the Portland stop, very good.

So can you do a switch whirly? I would imagine that the two moves help each other out. I think there's only one switch whirly I've ever seen and it was by Parks in Hype. I think that's one of the most respectable moves, cause that's a tricky move and to be able to do it regular and switch shows some serious control.

Fauker · Soul Rider Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 471 City: Charlotte

I honestly dont think it would take me long to learn a switch whirly, I did have a buddy of mine tell me it'd be kick ass to see in a comp. but then the whole repitition thing crossed my mind.

I dunno what do you guys thinks a better combo, whirly into big worm, or whirly to switch whirly?

Sean OBrien · Outlaw Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 165 City: Orlando, FL

I like the whirly to worm combo.

Honestly I don't do that many tricks switch. I have never even tried a switch whirly.

I don't really care about learning switch tricks. I would rather push wakeboarding to a new level than work on different switch mobe tricks.

I have put together a new highlights video for Lost which will hopefully be up on their website within the next month or so. It has 3 brand new variations of different tricks that I'm pretty sure nobody else has landed as of right now. I think you guys will really like what's on that vid.

Later,
Sean O'Brien

kyle · Guest

watch out for this kid rhett whatley. he is 15 and learned a big worm his 3rd try. he just rode junior mens at nationals and made it to the semi's. the kid is sick, just got picked up by cwb
http://www.localwakepics.com/video.htm
go there and goto WWC video at the bottom, first is reed hansen then rhett

Fauker · Soul Rider Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 471 City: Charlotte

no stuff rhett got hitched with cwb? He competes in outlaw with me and some other Georgia boys, Im really looking fwd. to this last ambush stop Twisted Evil

and sean - should you come off the wake on your toes? or try to trip flip at the last second to get the spin....

and about rhett - he also landed a hs 7 off the wake on his 3rd try.

bizzuck · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593

i thought it was the 4th try, either way holy shizzel.
congrats rhett.

kyle · Guest

yeah, when rhett comes down to tampa, he rides with us. i taught him a dum dum and a big worm in one set. yeah cwb picked him up at nationals, watch out for this kid, gonna be the next big pro

Sam Snead · Criminal Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 56 City: Atlanta, GA

The little bastard stuck a HS OA 7 behind Mike B's boat. It was dope. then he backed it up with a TS OA 7 and a Big Worm. I don't like him!!!!

bizzuck · Addict Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 593

yeah, i mean how hard are back to back 7's? Exclamation