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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 4:09 pm    Post subject: Getting that handle Reply with quote

whenever i try any spins i always miss the handle on the handle pass. im not sure if its cause im not strong enough or what but does anyone have any tips on grabbing the handle.thanks
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

learn on a kneeboard, its alot easier , just remember to keep the weight on your butt, and if you do a 180 lean forward or else your going in
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya i probably wont do that, but if anyone else has any tips please give em up!
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you own a kneeboard?
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kneeboard? You are kidding me right?
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cut on it all you want but its a great way to learn handle pass's
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey, just make sure ur in the air first, then, the thing i was trying to do wrong is i was turning, then tring to pass the handle, and thats next to impossible, u want to jump, pulllll then handle pretty hard to ur back, and then pass the handle LATE, it feels like u wont get it, but just dont wuss out, and u pass the handle almost as u land.
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am sure it prolly helps on your handle passes, but i have never tried it on a kneeboard.. to save yourself some embarrassment just dial your handle passes on the trampoline at home... if you can do a 720 with the handle passes on the tramp, then you can prolly do a 3 behind the boat. lots of practice, good luck.. and if you want to look strange, try the kneeboard thing, it prolly works, but i would stick to practicing on the tramp, and on the wakeboard. good luck
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i used to be izzable to do them but i just cant get the handle now.
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tried an off axis one today but i didnt really get off axis but i get a stuff load more pop and i cleanle landed it.
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweet, so did u ride away and all? if so thats sweet, im gonna start trying some off axis stuff
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didnt really ride away but i landed it perfectly without the rope. i might just keep doin that from now on
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats cool
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2003 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, i went out yesterday and tried an off 3 for the first time. i ended up missing the handle overrotating to a 5 and landing on my face, but i will definately be doin some more, it was fun.
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2003 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude thats exactly what happend to me but i was trying a ts off axis 5. it didnt really hurt that bad though. it seems like it would be really hard to get the handle on oa spins
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2003 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya, i just got a tramp a few days ago, and i have been practicing them all kinds on it.. it is so much easier on a trampoline, but it is better than nothing. i think i am going out tomarrow- if i get the handle i am almost sure i can stick it. just gotta reach real hard for the handle, it'll come!
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2003 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, i dont think practicing spins on a tramp really helps, cause its not the same at all on the water, but doing flips helps a ton
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2003 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya, the whole spin thing is that you dont have something pulling you 20 mph forward to create that resistance that makes it harder to grab the handle...if i could do the same flips on the water that i can do on a tramp, then i would be like pro, lol...maybe i could do em-i dunno, the whole tramp thing is more just for fun and to psych yourself out about wakeboarding as far as i am concerned.
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PostPosted: Aug 04, 2003 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya my little bros friend can do whirlys, moby dicks, and tootsy rolls on a tramp but can only do tantrums behind the boat.
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PostPosted: Aug 04, 2003 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with blindside088. I have a tramp and the 360s on those are cake. then I got behind the boat and I couldn't find the handle to save my life. After watching the video of me i could see the handle wasn't anywhere close to my hip so I wasn't going to make a pass.

I went home, got on the tramp and praticed pulling the handle HARD. Try jumping and pulling hard enough on the handle to make yourself land in front of where you jumped. Once I did that, I could pass the handle and make the rotation, but I wasn't getting enough air to come all the way around before the water caught up to me.

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PostPosted: Aug 04, 2003 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i went today and was trying 3s again, and i just held on till it was in my other hand and i stuck it. you just have to hold on alot longer than you think you do.
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PostPosted: Aug 04, 2003 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the handle pass is so hard for everyone, and practice doesn't seem to help, then y don't u try a wrapped pass?
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PostPosted: Aug 04, 2003 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i mean try a wrapped 3.
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PostPosted: Aug 05, 2003 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that should be wrapped is GREEN
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PostPosted: Aug 05, 2003 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not alot of people do wrapped stuff, its not as challenging, but i guess it what get you used to the rotation.
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PostPosted: Aug 05, 2003 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cap'nPimp, nice work on sticking it. I've found the best practice is to do little 3s and bs 180s off one wake, rollers, just ollieing, whatever. Little pop spins are easy due to the lack of line tension and that makes the handle pass easy to get used to. It's all about muscle memory.

Another thing I just remembered while out on the water today was that you want to turn your wrist over when putting the handle behind your back so your palm is facing up. That helps your body spin into the handle more, if you just shove it back there without turning it over, your body will resist the spin a bit.
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PostPosted: Aug 05, 2003 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true toothpick. Something as little as rolling the wrist over helps a ton when spinning. Not to mention, it makes the handle a ton easier to get with your other hand. Nice advice.

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PostPosted: Aug 05, 2003 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i coulnt land crap today. i tried like 4 360s, scarecrow, tantrum, and backroll and i couldt land stuff. its starting to piss me off. so i think im gonna do some slider stuff tomarow instead of only wake tricks.
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i coulnt land crap today. i tried like 4 360s, scarecrow, tantrum, and backroll and i couldt land stuff. its starting to piss me off. so i think im gonna do some slider stuff tomarow instead of only wake tricks. ill try that with the wrist turn thing, thanks
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PostPosted: Aug 05, 2003 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just try it and try it i tried about 30 times then landed it, now i have the rotation and the handle pass just have to stick it
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