buying 1st V w/$45-50K budget, suggestions?

calair03 · Posted: Jul 03, 2003 3:41 pm Post subject:

htownbdr, So you base all of your outspoken opinions on facts based on research and not real hands on experience. That's great. You have never seen a Calabria and now you are the all knowing Calabria Master.So you see it is people like you that give out bad info which leads to people again like you that pass on info like "The Pro-v has a tiny wake with no shape". when you actually know shizzle.
And while we're at it what is your all-knowing experience with CalabriasKing of the Tigers?

jumalian, Before you say anything more why don't you make the drive down to Phaeton's lake and go for a ride behind his boat and you can see what a real boat is like. Wood is for swimsteps not stringers. I will take your sanger and burn it in my fireplace.

Ralph · Posted: Jul 03, 2003 3:47 pm Post subject:

Yawn, is this pointless discussion still going on?

jumalian · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego

Why the hell would I drive hours down to ride a small wake, when I can stay home and ride a world class wake? Laughing

Jazz · Posted: Jul 03, 2003 5:22 pm Post subject:

Ralph, you said it mate, pointless discussion.

I cant believe i read all of that.

Anyway, i''l throw my $0.02 in this for the hell of it (and probably give someone some ammunition). Despite living in Australia, i would stick to the 'big three', not for the quality (they are all good), but after test driving the boats i would want to own (in Oz we dont have MC so i cant compare) i would pick outta the best dealer service. i wouldnt pick Calabria because i think they're ugly. Thats my opinion, but if you're happy with you're Calabria and your dealer is great, then great i hope you enjoy you're boat. If i'm dropping $45k+ on a boat, i want it to look good too, and in my opinion, i dont see calabria as doing that.

Funkster · Posted: Jul 03, 2003 6:16 pm Post subject:

To all that think theese type of thread's are pointless,it simple,dont read them. They are actually useful. The give view's from both sides of the fence and they tell people experiances with different boat's.

It's plane and simple, the pro v is an average "do it all" boat. It's is made for the "do it all" family. So with that said, they achieved what they where going for. They made a big boat to fit a big family and it can do it all not really excelling in one avenue. Like I said, Iam sure it is a great "family do it all" boat and fits you all greatly. But don't pipe off with untrue statements about there wakes being "HUGE" and bigger than the big 3's because that is just a false statement. Compared to a san,x-2 and the vlx the Pro v wake is tiny tim!!! Its ok to have a tiny wake they have a 12 step program for this type of envy and will get you all straighten out in no time!!!

Calair03, that sanger will swamp your cal air anyday!! The wake behind a cal air is worst than that of a Pro v. Surprised

your mouth is open,no insert foot

htownbdr · Posted: Jul 03, 2003 7:59 pm Post subject:

Calair - So, you make all your judgments on hasty generalizations?

Again, I find myself needing to remind you to re-read my posts. Nowhere in any of them did I say that I am the Calabria master. In fact, ragging on Calabria's is not the purpose of my posts. I don't need to rag on Calabrias or be a Calabria master to prove my point.

My point has been consistent throughout the whole thread. To make it crystal clear...My point is Calabria is not the best boat. There is no such thing as a "best boat".

If you don't believe this...Continue on with your naivety.

hlboatsnboards · Criminal Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 93

can someone PLEASE show me where the true written facts are that state what Funkster is trying to tell us by saying Calabria's wakes aren't as big as the top 3 selling boats? I would LOVE to read that article! I keep seeing him post that but can't seem to find any truth written on it anywhere.....hrmmmmmm, maybe I am not looking in the right spots.

I AM BIASED....but when we opened, we had our choice of boats to carry for inventory, we didn't choose Calabria for no reason!

hlboatsnboards · Criminal Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 93

before I get to into this...I would just like to comment on the likability of Funkster now that I have seen his profile picture....NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BIGMAC · Posted: Jul 03, 2003 9:50 pm Post subject:

calair03, you said Wood is for swimsteps not stringers. I will take your sanger and burn it in my fireplace. This statement just displays your ignorance.jumalian, you said Just another Calabria owner trying to justify his purchase which I think is partially true. However I think that justifying your purchace is what this all boils down to. Whether I spent 30k or 60k I would justify that purchase too and as always there is the which boat if for me question.

Funkster · Posted: Jul 03, 2003 10:27 pm Post subject:

hlboatsnboards wrote:"can someone PLEASE show me where the true written facts are that state what Funkster is trying to tell us by saying Calabria's wakes aren't as big as the top 3 selling boats?"For one, I think I said big 3, anybody that wakeboard's know's thats CC,malibu and mc(not particulary in that order) are considerd the big 3!! How did they get there...I think there label of big 3 speak for itself. How do I know that there wake's are bigger than the Pro V,thats a easy one. I have been behind all theese boat's stated and alot other's and I think I have a pretty good description of a good caliber wake(which a pro v is not)IMPO. It is very funny how most people will come on here and state that "any boat weighted will throw out a good wake"which is not true by anymeans. Lets forget cc,malibu,mastercraft and pretend that they dont make boats at all. Tige's 21ir, 22v, toyota epic and the moomba vls all produce better wakes than the Pro V. In my book the pro v barely even breaks into my top 7 wakeboard boat list.

Like I said before, I can care less about the name on the side of the boat. I will ride behind anyboat that throws out a nice clean solid wake and I will stick behind that boat and will refer that boat to people that ask my opinion what boat they should look into!! If the Pro V threw out a nice wake, I would say it did. What benefit will it get me to hype up a certain company. I dont even own a san,wakesetter or a x-2.

jumalian · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego

What I meant by justifying was that some people have to put down other boats to feel good about their purchase. That's just dumb.

I'm with Funkster on this one:

Get me behind a Pro-V with a big, solid and clean wake, and I'll talk it up! Bill, where's that Calabria rep to take me out??? Smile

hlboatsnboards · Criminal Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 93

Ignorance is bliss

BillJ · Posted: Jul 04, 2003 10:50 am Post subject:

I don't think the SAN is the best boat for you - yes, it's a great wakeboarding boat but the big steep wake could be too much for you and small kids. Unless you plan on getting very serious about wakeboarding then it's overkill. And the SAN is smaller inside and has less storage than some of the other boats listed.

I have a Tige 20v and it's been a great boat. If I had to do it again I'd get the 22v just for the additional room. One advantage that the Tige has is TAPS, which lets you adjust the wake. For small kids and beginners I can actually make the wake smaller and less intimidating.

I also looked at the Supra SSV but didn't care for the local dealer, but the boat was sweet with plenty of room and a great wake. My buddy as the Calabria Pro-V and you can't beat the room in that boat. He's had lots of problems with it though, so I wouldn't recommend a Calabria. But it's probably due to being one of the first ones built and a really crappy dealer. The Malibu is a nice roomy boat for a decent price also.

martasban · Newbie Joined: 16 Jun 2003 Posts: 48

Wow. What started out as an innocent thread has turned into a war of opinions, although I do appreciate all the posts.

Here's where I stand: SAN was the boat that I was going to purchase. At the time, I didn't know that it was considered the best. I was basing my decision based on the way the boat looked at the show. It looked awesome. The dealership was very friendly and knowledgebale too. The sales people were young kids and full of energy. Their web site allowed me to play around with colors and get excited about my purchase. MC and BU were also being considered but I don't really care much about the big fat logo stickers on the boats. They are trndy and have a short life span. What may look cool today, might be completely outdated next year. And they are STICKERS afterall. This is a $40K purchase, I expect a bit more from a manufacturer.

So after the post, some of you suggested the Pro-V. I drove down to the dealership and fell in love with it. I think one of you compared it to a Ford Escort, that is a bad comparison. A Centurion is more like a Ford escort or a Moomba. Pro-V looks and feels more like a BMW, which I've owned 3 of over the years. Pro-V's colors and graphics are all in the Gel coat. It's balast sys is patented, in fact, CC and MC have been trying for a couple of years to liscence the technology from Calabria with no success. Can you see Ferrari trying to liscence a patent from Ford?

Nonetheless, assuming we are comparing a Ferrarri (SAN) to a BMW (Pro-V), the functionality of the two are very different. As an avid sports car fan, I would love to own a Ferrari but it would have to be my third car as it is a driver's car only. Forget about taking out you family in it. So while I'm enjoying the drive, my kids are at home playing their video games! In a BMW, you still get the refinements of a world class sports car and a luxury cruiser (considering you get the M5 which I think the Por-V closely resembles).

So stop the hate boys. As one of you put it earlier, different strokes for different fols, right? I will probabely end up with a Pro-V but everytime I see a CC, MC or a BU, I will turn my head! They are all nice but they all have their pros and cons. Now go out their and enjoy yourselves...

calair03 · Posted: Jul 04, 2003 11:53 am Post subject:

Well Said!

WakeNup · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 171 City: South Carolina

CAl Air, if the Calabria wake is soooo goood, why don't any of the pro tours use them? I almost bought a Pro V and ended up with a Wakesetter instead. I am not saying the pro v is not a nice boat, but to make a claim that it's wake is better unweighted than other boats with weight is unrealistic. By the way, I love the vibration in the wheel when turning, the Calabria certainly has superior motor mounts.....at least they got rid of the Metcraft tower.............

X-Star · Soul Rider Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Posts: 253

I knew calair03 would be in this forum as soon as I read the title.

Thumper · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 63 City: Raleigh, NC

chuck, the upgrade you did in your SSV to 600 lb bags, where did you get them?