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ChrisG
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 Posted: Feb 17, 2014 4:38 pm Post subject: Apple and Tesla |
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Now this would be interesting. 
| Quote: | Two of the world's most innovative companies may have discussed working together or even joining forces, according to a San Francisco Chronicle report.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk met with Adrian Pierca, Apple’s head of mergers and acquisitions, last spring as analysts were suggesting Apple acquire the electronic carmaker, the Chronicle reported Sunday, citing an unnamed source.
“While a megadeal has yet to emerge (for all of its cash, Apple still plays hardball on valuation), such a high-level meeting between the two Silicon Valley giants involving their top dealmakers suggests Apple was very much interested in buying the electric car pioneer,” the report said. |
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pyrocasto
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| Posted: Feb 17, 2014 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Great, now they will have to run on Apple brand electricity, and probably void the warranty if you dont have it worked on by an Apple mechanic... 
I like Elon, and if he wants to sell the company it's probably because he has bigger dreams. Smart fella there.
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chavez
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 7:29 am Post subject: |
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It's more likely a collaboration on battery technology, which is almost equally important to both companies.
It would be quite interesting, however, if Apple bought Tesla.
We have a client taking delivery on a model S in 2 weeks. He's going to bring it by when he gets it.
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| I was in San Diego (PB, La Jolla, Carlsbad) 2 weeks ago and probably saw 1 model S per 5 miles driven. I've only seen 1 or 2 where I live in west Texas. I'd like to test drive one, but I'm not serious about buying one right now and I don't even know how you arrange a test drive. It's a very innovative car, and would be perfect for my wife's driving habits, but I have to thing the technology is at the far left side of the bell curve right now and will be heaps better in a couple of years. In the meantime, I've got my eye on the S 63. |
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chavez
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 11:11 am Post subject: |
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ohsix, I'm sorry, but if I was eyeing S63 type cars, there is no way in Hades I would ever look past the Model S. Not.A.Chance. Not in Cali anyway.
It might be heaps better - but IMO most of the "better" will be in the battery pack, which is quickly replaceable. The software (which runs everything in the car) is fully upgradeable as well (and is done so wirelessly...).
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ChrisG
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Apple needs Elon more than Elon needs Apple. Ever since SJ died, Apple hasn't come out with anything new (iPad in 2010). Bringing in Elon's innovative mind wouldn't be a bad thing for Apple. On the other hand, I'm not sure how this would benefit Elon/Tesla.
By the way, my wife's dream car is the Model S, which is a pretty bad ass car in my opinion. I just can't stomach the price right now. I'm waiting for Tesla to start building a more economical car. |
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ohsix
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| chavez wrote: | ohsix, I'm sorry, but if I was eyeing S63 type cars, there is no way in Hades I would ever look past the Model S. Not.A.Chance. Not in Cali anyway.
It might be heaps better - but IMO most of the "better" will be in the battery pack, which is quickly replaceable. The software (which runs everything in the car) is fully upgradeable as well (and is done so wirelessly...). |
I should say it would suit 90% of my wife's driving habits. She drives to the lake 2-3 times per year which is 350 miles one way, with ~70 miles being hills, 75 mph speed limit (she drives ~80), with (currently) no supercharging stations in between. Until the range is improved or the supercharging infrastructure is substantially improved, it's just not feasible for us. Other than use of carpool lanes with single occupant, I'm not sure what other advantages you would have in CA, and I'd guess we live 300 miles from the nearest carpool lane. |
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chavez
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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ohsix, carpool lanes, charging available in many places, enjoying a bad ass rig, etc.
You don't need a supercharger to juice it. Tesla includes the adapter to use the more commonly found charging stations. Those stations are in a lot of places around here.
Texas, being so sparse in places, may not be the best place for an all-electric as of right now, but I'd bet ol Elon has intentions on changing that.
That said, a 2-3 time per year trip is not something I'd factor in to a vehicle purchase. FWIW - If I did, I'd own something that would be kinda ridiculous to drive the other 350-360 days of the year given my needs. Which sums up about everyone around here who drives a truck without a speck of dirt on the underbody and not a scratch to be found in the bed. 
My Jetta Sport Trucken:
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| chavez wrote: | | That said, a 2-3 time per year trip is not something I'd factor in to a vehicle purchase. FWIW - If I did, I'd own something that would be kinda ridiculous to drive the other 350-360 days of the year given my needs. Which sums up about everyone around here who drives a truck without a speck of dirt on the underbody and not a scratch to be found in the bed. |
I've looked at it from that angle as well. My wife wants a Jeep as a 2nd vehicle (the California type of Jeep with slushbox, lifted, leather, AC, no scratches or specks of dirt) and that's not a vehicle I want my kids in on road trips. With a Model S and a Jeep, she ends up with 2 vehicles ill-suited for a road trip.
I rarely keep a vehicle for more than a couple of years, and on what I consider expensive vehicles (>$60,000) I usually buy 1-2 year old used with low miles so I don't take as much depreciation hit. That way an S63 will cost $80-90k vs. $140k and I only lose $15k in depreciation instead of $50k.
Until our new house is finished, we're garage limited to 3 vehicles, and when furniture shopping begins, we will probably be discretionary income limited for several months after that, so I probably have until the end of the year before I buy something else for my wife. |
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chavez
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | My wife wants a Jeep as a 2nd vehicle (the California type of Jeep with slushbox, lifted, leather, AC, no scratches or specks of dirt) |
You and me both man. Although I'd definitely find a mud hole or 2 to run it through - because Jeep.
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Nor*Cal
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Tesla's quick replacements are getting rolled by state regulators who favor quick charging stations. If Elon wants to go that route he's going at it alone without Government subsidy, which is the only reason Tesla is afloat.
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| Posted: Feb 18, 2014 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| ChrisG wrote: | | Apple needs Elon more than Elon needs Apple. Ever since SJ died, Apple hasn't come out with anything new (iPad in 2010). |
I'm getting reeeeeally tired of hearing this from everyone. No, Apple hasn't released anything crazy lately, but neither has anyone else.
Everyone is still playing catch up with the iPad(s).
Everyone is still playing catch up with the MacBook Air/Pro.
iPhone is still on top.
And somehow the Mac Pro is less expensive than a home built equivalent using like components.
And if you were paying attention around the time of Steve Jobs' death you would have heard that he was involved in the iPhone 5 design, meaning that we still haven't seen any post-Jobs products hit the market yet.
Apple doesn't need Elon, they need some new futuristic battery tech. They probably met up to discuss sharing resources and research because they'd both benefit from it.
| ohsix wrote: | | I'm not sure what other advantages you would have in CA, and I'd guess we live 300 miles from the nearest carpool lane. |
If you're in SF or LA then the carpool thing is kind of moot since there's so many people in the carpool lane anyways (carpoolers, Nissan Leafs, etc). Working at a campus that has banks of chargers does make me wish I could drive to work and plug my truck in and not ever have to worry about needing to stop for gas in the morning when I'm already late for work.
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2014 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm VERY familiar with the internal workings of Tesla.
Tesla doesn't really need to partner with Apple. If they need something from Apple, they'll just steal the associated Apple employee.
Tesla is as hot as it gets as an employer these days. Elon isn't going anywhere. |
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2014 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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When CA car standards were mandated nationally as part of the settlement Telsa became feasible. Basically getting paid to help others meet the mandate.
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vette74
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| Posted: Feb 25, 2014 7:37 am Post subject: |
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I actually drove an "S" my Doc has one. It is very quick the 0-30 it rivals a lot of sports cars I have ridden in. It is a very cool car I like how it is always "on" just open the door put it in drive and go.
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