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 Posted: Oct 06, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject: Shutdown |
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| Quote: | While our president still enjoys his essential employees and locations: the White House chefs, Camp David, and a military golf course, there doesn't seem to be any question that in mercenary pursuit of a political win, this White House is determined to unreasonably punish as many everyday people as possible. And this includes children sick with cancer. That might sound like hyperbole, but it is not.
Although Barack Obama's chefs have been deemed "essential," employees at the National Institutes of Health who offer last-chance experimental cancer treatments for children suffering from cancer have not. Worse still, House Republicans have offered to compromise with the president and single the NIH out for funding. The White House has threatened a veto.
Using children sick with cancer as pawns is community organizing on steroids. And the media are covering for him. When the media thought they could emotionally blackmail the GOP with these sick children, telling their story was all the rage. Now that it is Obama and Senate Democrats wrist-flicking refusing treatment for these children, suddenly the media aren't too interested in telling their story.
There are many other examples of this president's cold-hearted fanaticism and willingness to punish people for reasons that seem to have much more to with spite than what is and is not "essential." In fact, there are a number of examples where Obama seems to be spending more money and using more resources to close and block and inconvenience than to just leave it alone.
The media may or may not report on these individual occurrences, but what they will never do is provide the American people with the full context and scope of Obama's shrill pettiness.
Below is a list of illogical, unnecessary, and shockingly spiteful moves our government is making in the name of essential and non-essential.
This list will be regularly updated, and if you have something you feel should be added, please email me at jnolte@breitbart.com or tweet me @NolteNC.
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1. Treatments for Children Suffering From Cancer - The GOP have agreed to a compromise by funding part of the government, including the National Institutes of Health, which offers children with cancer last-chance experimental treatment. Obama has threatened to veto this funding.
2. The World War II Memorial - The WWII memorial on the DC Mall is a 24/7 open-air memorial that is not regularly staffed. Although the White House must have known that WWII veterans in their eighties and nineties had already booked flights to visit this memorial, the White House still found the resources to spitefully barricade the attraction.
The Republican National Committee has offered to cover any costs required to keep the memorial open. The White House refused. Moreover, like the NIH, the GOP will pass a compromise bill that would fund America's national parks. Obama has threatened to veto that bill.
3. Furloughed Military Chaplains Not Allowed to Work for Free - Furloughed military chaplains willing to celebrate Mass and baptisms for free have been told they will be punished for doing so.
4. Business Stops In Florida Keys - Although the GOP have agreed to compromise in the ongoing budget stalemate and fund the parks, Obama has threatened to veto that funding. As a result, small businesses, hunters, and commercial fisherman can't practice their trade. While the feds have deemed the personnel necessary to keep this area open "non-essential," the "enforcement officers" to ensure no business is done are "essential."
5. Obama Blacks Out Sports, Entertainment Programming to Overseas Troops - The American Forces Network (AFN) that provides American sports and entertainment programming to our troops stationed abroad, has been shut down. For some reason, though, AFN News will still broadcast news, just not any of the popular and fun stuff.
Camp David is essential, but popular programming for heroes overseas is non-essential.
6. Obama Closes D-Day Memorial - The GOP have offered to compromise and fund the National Parks. Obama has said he will veto this compromise legislation. As a result, along with 24 other military cemeteries, the D-Day memorial in Normandy has been barricaded.
7. Obama Tries to Close Privately-Funded Mt. Vernon - Although George Washington's Mt. Vernon estate is privately funded, the feds blocked visitors from entering the parking area because the Park Service maintains the lot. Apparently, the New Media publicity resulted in the feds backing down.
8. Obama Closes Over 100 Privately-Managed Parks That Cost No Money to Run - The U.S. Treasury actually makes money from the rent paid by a private company that "employs about 400-500 camp workers and managers across about a dozen states." No federal money is used to operate these parks. No federal employees are used to staff these parks. Taxpayers make a profit from these parks. Still, Obama had them closed and as a result 400-500 employees and a private business are taking it in the neck.
9. Obama Closes Self-Sustaining Colonial Farm It Hasn’t Supported Since 1980 - "For the first time in 40 years, the National Park Service (NPS) has finally succeeded in closing the Farm down to the public. In previous budget dramas, the Farm has always been exempted since the NPS provides no staff or resources to operate the Farm.”
10. Obama Tries to Close State-Run Parks in Wisconsin - "The park service ordered state officials to close the northern unit of the Kettle Moraine, Devil's Lake, and Interstate state parks and the state-owned portion of the Horicon Marsh, but state authorities rebuffed the request because the lion's share of the funding came from state, not federal coffers."
11. Obama Closes Vietnam Memorial - The GOP have passed compromise legislation that would fund national memorials and parks, and open them to the public. Obama threatened a veto. Apparently, the "essential" government employees are those erecting barricades, not those who could keep the memorial open.
12. Obama Closes Privately-Owned Hotel, Police Block Parking Lot - "The operator of a 51-room inn located on U.S. government-owned land in North Carolina abandoned his defiant stance on Thursday to keep the property open despite being ordered to close as part of the federal government shutdown."
October is this inn's prime season. The GOP have offered compromise funding opening the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise.
State troopers blocked customers from entering the inn's parking lot.
13. Park Service Ranger: 'We've Been Told to Make Life As Difficult For People As We Can' - “It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”
14. Obama Forces Residents Out of Private Homes - "The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land."
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
15. Acadia Park In Maine Shut Down - '"We’ve been training for two years at CrossFit for this hike — no kidding,” Hart said. She added that the shutdown should be as inconvenient for the Washington politicians who caused it as it is for average citizens.'
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
16. Historic Restaurant Open During Last Shutdown Forced to Close - "An iconic Philadelphia restaurant has been forced to close its doors and turn away booked parties because of the government shutdown. …
"Restaurant public relations director Molly Yun said they were notified there was a possibility a closure might happen, but they were allowed to remain open during the last government shutdown 17 years ago."
The restaurant is part of the federal park system, which the GOP have agreed to fund. Obama said he will veto the funding.
17. Obama Shuts Down a Road Tha Goes Through CO Park: "The Forest Service announcement, in turn, led the Pitkin County commissioners to order that Maroon Creek Road be shut down at the height of the colorful leaf-changing season. Ahead of what is to be one of the busiest weekends of the fall, the road is to be closed to vehicles at T-Lazy-7 Ranch, pending a resolution to the government shutdown."
The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto that compromise funding.
18. Residents Plan Protest of Cape Hatteras Closing - "Businesses and residents on the Outer Banks have planned a peaceful protest of the closure of Hatteras Island's beaches due to the government shut down.
"The U.S. House Wednesday passed a measure to reopen national parks and monuments. It will now go to the U.S. Senate."
In the unlikely event the Democrat Senate passes the bill, Obama has threatened a veto of any compromise legislation opening the parks.
19. Obama Blocks People From LOOKING at Mt. Rushmore - "Blocking access to trails and programs at South Dakota’s most popular attraction was one thing, but state officials didn’t expect Congress’ budget stalemate to shut down a view of Mount Rushmore.
"The National Park Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the famed monument.
The cones first went up Oct. 1, said Dusty Johnson, Gov. Dennis Daugaard’s chief of staff. The state asked that they be taken down, and federal officials did so with some of them. The state was told the cones were a safety precaution to help channel cars into viewing areas rather than to bar their entrance."
20. Crucial USDA Websites Taken Down - "The U.S. Department of Agriculture has turned off its entire website in response to the government shutdown, leaving farmers, reporters and others with no way to access any of the agency's information online. …
"USDA's total website shutdown goes far beyond the response of other federal agencies, and seems to be part of an effort to make people feel the effects of the shutdown. Thursday morning calls to USDA's press office seeking an explanation were not answered."
This website is down and yet the ObamaCare and White House websites are up.
21. St. Louis Gateway Arch Closed - The GOP have agreed to compromise legislation funding the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
22. Park Shutdown Bounces Rowers from Potomac - "The ripple effect of a government shutdown has pushed rowers from the Potomac River.
"Multiple high schools rent space at the Thompson Boat Center in Georgetown. But like other places controlled by the National Park Service, it closed Tuesday morning."
The GOP have agreed to compromise funding opening the parks. Obama has threatened a veto.
23. Thompson Boat Center Closed In DC - The GOP have agreed to fund the parks. Obama said he will veto.
24. Obama Closes Military Commissary - "Military members, veterans and families who shop at local tax-free store are shocked to discover the store's doors locked; no progress to end stalemate in Washington."
While the government has deemed the White House chefs "essential," working class military personnel have lost their tax-free store privileges.
Military personnel and their families tell me that they have never lost these privileges in previous shutdowns.
25. Arizona Offers to Fund Grand Canyon, Obama Says 'Drop Dead' - "Obama has ordered the Grand Canyon to stay closed, even after the state of Arizona and local businesses have offered to cover the costs necessary to keep it open. In other words, the shutdown isn’t about the money — it’s about hurting the American people just because he can." |
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/list-obama-closures-for-shutdown
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| Posted: Oct 06, 2013 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Why do you post articles written by trolling a-holes?
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| Posted: Oct 06, 2013 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Just something to share and discuss. I would think the points being made could be pretty easily picked apart and debunked by the wb.com folks.
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| Posted: Oct 06, 2013 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| chavez wrote: | | Why do you post articles written by trolling a-holes? |
My thoughts exactly.
Okie Boarder, if the man who wrote that article was any dumber, I dont think he would be able to type... Not the best one to post.
As for the shutdowns, everyone knows they are retarded as freaking hell. There's not a single person I've heard of yet defending them. What most people are doing though, is pointing a finger to one side or the other. Both sides are equally full of idiots... This is a pissing match between children, and this is our government. The biggest problem is the people that hurt us are the people we elect to make our laws, not really seeing much change in our near future... 
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2013 5:39 am Post subject: |
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i don't think the finger pointing is childish. The republicans put up a bill that they wanted. It was defeated. They took that loss and tried to COMPROMISE by asking that the congress lose the subsidies and to give the citizens a 1 year delay on the ACA (same as companies). Dems have shot that down and have stated that they WILL NOT COMPROMISE. If one side is willing to compromise and the other is not, then the finger pointing becomes important. Republicans need to point the finger and say "We moved our position. We are trying to work this out. They WILL NOT move and have stated as much."
Anyway, this is just part of government. Hell, it happened 12 times or so in the 90's.
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I saw this on the pay box at my local ramp from the looks of it it sounds like they had to shut down the park because of the government shutdown. The reality is that park was closed for the season 3 weeks ago. The ramp is open year round . It cost more to hang the sign than it would have to do nothing .
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2013 11:56 am Post subject: |
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^Are you supposed to pay year-round?
On the pay-boxes around here we have to pay year-round unless otherwise noted, and there is usually a ranger that makes the parking lot rounds once an hour or so to check. I'm thinking of state-run facilities here in CA.
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2013 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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It is complete bull all the effort and expense that has gone into making sure that National Parks and Monuments are closed.
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2013 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| eeven73 wrote: | | It is complete bull all the effort and expense that has gone into making sure that National Parks and Monuments are closed. |
Agree. I applauded the WWII vets that basically bulldozed their way into the "closed" WWII memorial in DC. One of the guys said something along the lines of "I fought for this country in WWII, I'll be damned if some stupid congressman is going to keep me from going to the memorial."
It's a big dog and pony show to inconvenience a few people to try to make it seem like a govt shutdown is SOOOOO catastrophic.
Other things of note on the shutdown:
You have a divided congress who is doing nothing more than pointing fingers at each other. What we need in a situation like that is leadership in the White House, instead Obama is jumping in with the bozos in congress with their finger pointing.
There is/was talk about paying furloughed gov't workers. I'll be damned if the taxpayers are going to be on the hook to pay for workers who aren't working. This isn't a f^cking paid vacation. If you're getting a check, get your ass to work and do your job. |
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| eich82, pretty sure its already been decided...you will be damned |
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| Posted: Oct 07, 2013 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| chavez wrote: | ^Are you supposed to pay year-round?
On the pay-boxes around here we have to pay year-round unless otherwise noted, and there is usually a ranger that makes the parking lot rounds once an hour or so to check. I'm thinking of state-run facilities here in CA. |
Yes most of the locals buy a year pass. Not many day users after labor day.
I have been here for three years now and I rarely see any rangers except to open at 7 and close the park at 10 pm. |
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| Posted: Oct 08, 2013 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| goofyboy wrote: | i don't think the finger pointing is childish. The republicans put up a bill that they wanted. It was defeated. They took that loss and tried to COMPROMISE by asking that the congress lose the subsidies and to give the citizens a 1 year delay on the ACA (same as companies). Dems have shot that down and have stated that they WILL NOT COMPROMISE. If one side is willing to compromise and the other is not, then the finger pointing becomes important. Republicans need to point the finger and say "We moved our position. We are trying to work this out. They WILL NOT move and have stated as much."
Anyway, this is just part of government. Hell, it happened 12 times or so in the 90's. |
I would disagree...the R's won't pass anything that doesn't try to change Obamacare. The D's won't accept anything that does try to change Obamacare. The rest seems like political theater to me. At this point it boils down to who blinks.
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| Posted: Oct 09, 2013 5:06 am Post subject: |
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I would love to see someone produce evidence that Obama is the one intitiating these shutdowns, rather than the predetermined plans of the various agencies. This link and many similar statements, meme's, etc. are flying all over the place online and on social media, with what seems like very little proof.
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| Posted: Oct 10, 2013 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Okie Boarder wrote: | | I would love to see someone produce evidence that Obama is the one intitiating these shutdowns, rather than the predetermined plans of the various agencies. This link and many similar statements, meme's, etc. are flying all over the place online and on social media, with what seems like very little proof. |
So proven.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/02/monuments-and-memorials-remained-open-during-previous-shutdown/
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| Posted: Oct 10, 2013 11:22 am Post subject: |
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How does that prove that Obama is initiating the closures? How do we know this isn't part of the agencies policies now and wasn't back in 95/96?
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| Okie Boarder wrote: | | How does that prove that Obama is initiating the closures? How do we know this isn't part of the agencies policies now and wasn't back in 95/96? |
Who appoints the executive management of those agencies, boards, departments, and offices?
Hint, they're not civil servants...
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| Posted: Oct 10, 2013 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm assuming the President appoints those positions. But, does he also dictate their policies and procedures for a situation like this shutdown? Has the President specifically told them to deviate from these policies, in order to make this shut down more "painful" or are they just following policy?
From what I've seen and read, it appears they are following the policies already in place.
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