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GnarShredd
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 Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: Competition Riding (specifically Cable); Help? |
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I'm making it a goal to compete for the first time in years this year. Anyone have tips on putting a run together for a cable comp? How much does switch riding matter? How can I make up for my lack of flatwater air tricks? I'm solid on rails so can pretty much do whatever there if I have a couple months to get it down. For now, here's my bag-o-tricks, thoughts?
Have Down Solid
Grabs
All 180's (reg & switch)
FS 3's (grabbed)
BS3's
FS 5
HS Backroll
HS Roll-revert
TS Scarecrow (working on crow mobe but don't expect in time for a comp)
Flat-water rolls & roll-reverts
Can probably Learn (need suggestions!)
Tantrums (maybe with a grab)
switch 3's & 5's
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shaggyboarder
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| Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Which cable? plan your run around obstacles and turns. You want an even mix of rail hits kicker hits and air tricks if possible.
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GnarShredd
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| Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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shaggyboarder, McCormicks in Tampa probably (may try to make it out to orlando if there's any weekend comps), hard to say what they'll have out but the layout last time I was there was (in order from the start dock).
1. Kicker either side
2. Gap A-Frame on my toeside, Flatbar on my heelside
3. Kicker on my heelside (nothing toeside)
Tower 1, 2, 3
4. short picnic table with a small kicker off the end toeside, Big wedge ramp/wallride heelside
5. Big rainbow toeside, Rooftop heelside
Tower 4
*thinking of trying to learn a switch air trick here but I don't have high hopes
Tower 5
6.Then I think they let you finish out with a kicker hit.
The tricky thing is getting in air-tricks since I'm goofy footed and the cable favors regular riders. |
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| Posted: Feb 01, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Just have a nice variety of inverts and spins. hit the rails smoothly and make every feature that you hit worth it
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GnarShredd
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| Posted: Feb 01, 2013 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Does switch riding/use of obstacles on both sides of the cable matter? |
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shaggyboarder
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| Posted: Feb 01, 2013 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| GnarShredd wrote: | shaggyboarder, McCormicks in Tampa probably (may try to make it out to orlando if there's any weekend comps), hard to say what they'll have out but the layout last time I was there was (in order from the start dock).
1. Kicker either side
2. Gap A-Frame on my toeside, Flatbar on my heelside
3. Kicker on my heelside (nothing toeside)
Tower 1, 2, 3
4. short picnic table with a small kicker off the end toeside, Big wedge ramp/wallride heelside
5. Big rainbow toeside, Rooftop heelside
Tower 4
*thinking of trying to learn a switch air trick here but I don't have high hopes
Tower 5
6.Then I think they let you finish out with a kicker hit.
The tricky thing is getting in air-tricks since I'm goofy footed and the cable favors regular riders. |
The two best place places imo to do right foot forward air tricks at mccormicks is right off the start dock and right after tower 3. Your gonna want to do something after tower 4 or you gonna feel kind of silly just riding through those towers with so much potential to do an air trick there.
My suggestion would be to learn a switch broll or r2r. r2r is easier imo.
Over my years of experience the best tricks for comps are consistent ones. My favorite thing about cable comps is that you get two passes. You can go about it two ways. Put the heat on in the first pass to pressure the other riders. Then if that doesn't go as planned on your second pass do more of a consistent run put points on the board.
Or you can do your first pass and make it a stand up run do all of your most consistent tricks. Having already points on the board might alleviate some pressure on you and heres where you can try to one up your previous pass and attempt some harder tricks you might not be as consistent in.
My advice for getting back into competeting and you havent done it in awhile would be go the consistent route first. and make adjustments on your second pass depending how you do. This is what I did my first year competeting in cable and it worked out really well for me.
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shaggyboarder
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| Posted: Feb 01, 2013 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| GnarShredd wrote: | | Does switch riding/use of obstacles on both sides of the cable matter? |
I think this is pretty controversial and depends on the judges and division. I believe pro division doesnt judge switch any differently than regular. Being at that "level" of a rider you shouldnt necessarily have a switch riding stance because you should be equally as good. At first I use to see it as a bonus in competitors riding for example a switch hs 7 would score better than a regular hs 7. But now i dont really think thats fair because it is the same trick. Now I see it as more of a variety of riding. So its a plus maybe for the overall run to lets say have inside and outside air tricks from a variety standpoint but the individual tricks do not get scored better.
Thats kind of my vision/opinion. It really comes down to the particular judges or scoring bracket for how the comp is set up.
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| Posted: Feb 01, 2013 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Good call. Thanks for the tips. My plan was to just get a stand-up run down the first time. Then the second one around maybe amp up 2 or 3 of the tricks I did (for example, if I do a 3 in the first run maybe try and do a grabbed 3 or a 5 the next one). Maybe even just throw out a crow mobe if I'm close to them (if they're allowed at my level) as kind of a big finishing trick. Maybe the spirit of competition will help me stick it. haha.
Would it hurt a lot if I did a r2r in corner 4 and again at the end after the last tower? Trying to see if I should focus on maybe a switch r2r and a switch raley or something... |
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shaggyboarder
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| Posted: Feb 01, 2013 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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usually repeat tricks arent scored.
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| Posted: Feb 01, 2013 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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They might however take the best of the two attempts. depends on the division as well. but I would never do the same trick twice thats just me.
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| Posted: Feb 01, 2013 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| shaggyboarder, Got ya. good call. I'll get two different runs dialed-in by the time the comps start coming around. |
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| shaggyboarder wrote: | | GnarShredd wrote: | | Does switch riding/use of obstacles on both sides of the cable matter? |
I believe pro division doesnt judge switch any differently than regular. Being at that "level" of a rider you shouldnt necessarily have a switch riding stance because you should be equally as good. At first I use to see it as a bonus in competitors riding for example a switch hs 7 would score better than a regular hs 7. But now i dont really think thats fair because it is the same trick.
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Is this really the way wakeboarding is judged? Is it because you're strapped in? |
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