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Whats everyone think about the changes for 2012.

 
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2011 6:06 pm    Post subject: Whats everyone think about the changes for 2012. Reply with quote

Looks like LF is going metric.

http://vimeo.com/28673240
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2011 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not seeing the controversy here. Doesn't seem like a big deal one way or the other...
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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been tried and true in other sports, shouldn't be a big deal. At least it won't cause as much confusion as the whole insert spacing fiasco a few years ago...
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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2011 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, I don’t think LF can patent the metric system so it shouldn’t be an issue for other brands to follow suit...

TheHebrewHammer, the controversy is, for example, when you go to use Ronix bindings on a new LF board and the hardware doesnt work... or you have 2010 LF bindings you want to use on a 2012 LF board... Not an issue for me (yet) since I quit using LF stuff years ago.

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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LaynDoor wrote:
Yea, I don’t think LF can patent the metric system so it shouldn’t be an issue for other brands to follow suit...

TheHebrewHammer, the controversy is, for example, when you go to use Ronix bindings on a new LF board and the hardware doesnt work... or you have 2010 LF bindings you want to use on a 2012 LF board... Not an issue for me (yet) since I quit using LF stuff years ago.


I'd say such inconveniences are inevitable. A few years ago, 6" plates became the industry standard instead of 8" plates. The standard will probably continue change every few years and we just have to deal with it.

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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2011 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there're good things to come from using M6 bolts as standard - the first obvious one that comes to mind is the ability to use bolts that take a 5mm allen key head, which avoids the problem of rounding out bolts/philips screw drivers, especially in the wet. it is so much easier to crank down the bolts properly with an allen key Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2011 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah this definitely shouldn't cause any problems. I don't usually ride LF so I am good either way
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2011 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plus, you can easily look for titanium bolts for the bling bling factor and 25 grams less weight Laughing
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ediotism wrote:
plus, you can easily look for titanium bolts for the bling bling factor and 25 grams less weight Laughing


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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allen head hardware made out of whatever material you would like is READILY available in standard screw threads.
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LaynDoor wrote:
Allen head hardware made out of whatever material you would like is READILY available in standard screw threads.


that's true, but i do have a massive concern about allen head bolts that use the imperial system - to do with rounding out.

a 6mm allen head is very slightly smaller than a 1/4'' allen head. A 1/4'' allen key cannot fit into a 6mm head, but a 6mm key can fit in a 1/4'' head and 'seems' to be the right size for turning. however as you put torque onto it the 6mm allen key has a big chance of having its six corners rounded off. worse is when the bolt head is rounded and you'd have to drill it off.

using metric bolts on the boards will stop any carefree wakeboarders with an inappropriate allen key from using it to tighten/round out anything, since the imperial size keys at each size range is slightly too big to fit in. but if it's the other way round, we can see countless people potentially using wrong allen keys.
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