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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 19, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject: JESUS, how do you Ronix people do it? |
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I rode my buddy's 2010 Ronix One today and holy **** that thing is tight. It had the standard 1-inch fins and breaking it loose was scary. The speed and pop were excellent and felt pretty similar to my LF Harley, but the One was waaaaay less forgiving. My buddy says that's the reason he doesn't do many surface tricks like backside butterslides/powerslides/surface BS 180s. I wonder what it would've been like finless.
I know this board is hugely popular, but are all y'all who ride it not bothered at all by this? Is it something you just get used to? Does it become manageable with more skill/experience? I'm not knocking the board. I'm just curious! _________________ rally to the wake |
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Enygma Soul Rider

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Posted: Jul 19, 2011 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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I found my old CWB board was MUCH easier to break loose for surface tricks then my new Ronix. I can understand what your buddies saying when he says he doesn't do much surface tricks for that reason.
That said I still intend to buy a Mana or a One next year because I love my Vault. The Vault will be demoted to community board as it's a great beginner to intermediate board. |
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erikneufeld Criminal

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Posted: Jul 19, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah i hear ya, i took my buddies ONE out thinking i wanted a ronix board, but after one lap i was over that notion, it grips soo hard when i wanted to slide and slide when i didnt want it to comming off of bigger trick landings,....im sure its a good board for some riding styles though, as for me im sticking to LF lol. |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 19, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| erikneufeld wrote: | | yeah i hear ya, i took my buddies ONE out thinking i wanted a ronix board, but after one lap i was over that notion, it grips soo hard when i wanted to slide and slide when i didnt want it to comming off of bigger trick landings,....im sure its a good board for some riding styles though, as for me im sticking to LF lol. |
The weird thing is that some ONE riders say they really like the way it slides. I made this same thread on WakeWorld:
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=788980
It's crazy how different people's opinions can be. _________________ rally to the wake |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

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Posted: Jul 19, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| The One definitely does dig in a little bit but you said it yourself, the pop and speed are excellent. It's not a board made to do surface tricks though. Powerslides are all about how you do it though, never expect a board with 1"+ fins to just pop out for you whenever you want. For my powerslides I edge out as hard as I can and right when I want to break loose I switch edges quick and kick my back leg out and never have any issue. Any other surface trick that you want to break loose on is more about weight transfer and how you pull on the rope. I have .9's on my Humanoid and it's easy to break loose because of how I break it loose but it's still a tight board when it needs to be. |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 19, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| holdsworth wrote: | | I have .9's on my Humanoid and it's easy to break loose because of how I break it loose but it's still a tight board when it needs to be. |
Interesting. I think it'd be cool to learn some different ways of sliding so that I could adapt better to different boards.
I'd be more tempted to learn if I felt like the One was a faster or poppier board than my Harley. Then I'd be like, "Damn, I need to step my game up and learn to ride a more aggressive board." But as it stands, I feel like my Harley is just as fast and poppy as the One, if not more so, so I don't see any reason to put up with the One's tightness.
I never feel like I need the Harley to be a tight board. It lays a hard edge on just fine and never slips out when I'm cutting. All board companies like to say that their boards are loose in the middle and tracky at the ends, but I think the Harley really does have that perfect balance, at least for me.
I'll definitely revisit this thought when I'm ready to buy a new board. I'd like to try the Hyperlite Marek, which is supposedly a super agressive board. If I feel there's an upside, I'll commit to learning to ride a tighter board and probably become a better rider because of it. _________________ rally to the wake |
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BrianABE Outlaw

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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 5:41 am Post subject: |
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I'm all about the LF S4 love  |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| BrianABE wrote: | I'm all about the LF S4 love  |
I demoed the 2009 S4 before choosing the Harley and I really liked it. I've heard the board's gotten tighter since then though. _________________ rally to the wake |
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fotoshark Newbie


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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Believe it or not for a newbie I actually see the difference comfort on the water wise. The first time I went out I learned on a Ronix board WITHOUT fins. Then after that lesson I bought a hyperlite board from the store I learned at WITH fins took it out a few times this week so far and well ... Its easier to edge for a beginner, but when I tried to ride switch it def wasn't as easy to get to switch position as it was with the Ronix board and no fins lol  |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| fotoshark wrote: | Believe it or not for a newbie I actually see the difference comfort on the water wise. The first time I went out I learned on a Ronix board WITHOUT fins. Then after that lesson I bought a hyperlite board from the store I learned at WITH fins took it out a few times this week so far and well ... Its easier to edge for a beginner, but when I tried to ride switch it def wasn't as easy to get to switch position as it was with the Ronix board and no fins lol  |
Absolutely, man. I remember my first time riding with no fins: SCARY! I think beginners really need some fin guidance to keep everything pointed in the right direction. It's just that once you get more comfortable, that guidance becomes a hinderance. _________________ rally to the wake |
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fotoshark Newbie


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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| TheHebrewHammer wrote: | | fotoshark wrote: | Believe it or not for a newbie I actually see the difference comfort on the water wise. The first time I went out I learned on a Ronix board WITHOUT fins. Then after that lesson I bought a hyperlite board from the store I learned at WITH fins took it out a few times this week so far and well ... Its easier to edge for a beginner, but when I tried to ride switch it def wasn't as easy to get to switch position as it was with the Ronix board and no fins lol  |
Absolutely, man. I remember my first time riding with no fins: SCARY! I think beginners really need some fin guidance to keep everything pointed in the right direction. It's just that once you get more comfortable, that guidance becomes a hinderance. |
You know whats funny? I think I kinda did better out there without the fins lmao Because yesterdays ride on my board with the fins did not go so smoothly when I tried to flip over to ride toe side lmao Ate wake for lack of better words... lol Now I dunno if it was technique or the hinderance hahaha
BUT if you look at it in a certain sense learning without the fins might actually make you a better rider if you can do it and dont keep falling. Maybe I'll take 'em off tomorrow before I go out again ...... lol
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| fotoshark wrote: | | BUT if you look at it in a certain sense learning without the fins might actually make you a better rider if you can do it and dont keep falling. |
I really believe this is the case. Learning to ride finless will give you more precise edge control and balance and also encourage you to learn surface tricks, which are super fun and very helpful for saving sketchy landings. _________________ rally to the wake |
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fotoshark Newbie


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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| Well I think I'm sold on taking my fins off now hahahaha |
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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I ride a 2010 Ronix One and love the control it has. I don't have a problem getting into any slides with it, it's all just a matter of getting used to how the board rides. My buddy I ride with rides one of CWBs 2010 boards and I can't stand it, it's just entirely too loose and squirrely for my liking.
Just a matter of preference and getting used to the way each board handles and responds on the water |
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Fiction520 Newbie

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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty much a complete noob and I ride an 09 CWB absolute without the fins. Board feels buttery without them. I like it much better. |
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Surface tricks simply aren't exactly something that pro riders or riders at a higher level are looking to do so the board is definitely not made for things like that. It's made for good performance wake to wake. |
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STANG KILLA SS Wakeboarder.Commie


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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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my '10 ibex was the same way. it is the sintered base version so it came with both the 1" and .8" slider fins
i was on a 09 watson the year before (no center fin) and the 1" fins on the ibex were WAY too big, and the board was too tight for me, (i do alot of surface stuff) i put the .8" sliders on and it was nealy identical to the watson, looseness wise. althought the square tips of the ibex did add just a HAIR more 'stick" when sliding it around but like 2%. almost nothing. (the watson has a rounder tip profile) _________________
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| GnarShredd wrote: | | Surface tricks simply aren't exactly something that pro riders or riders at a higher level are looking to do so the board is definitely not made for things like that. It's made for good performance wake to wake. |
I think it's ridiculous that some riders who use really aggressive boards think they're better than riders who use more forgiving boards. Like I said, the Harley has all the speed and pop of the One if not more. It's one of the most "high performance" boards money can buy, so I don't see how the One is better. What's the point of buying a board that's "not made for things like that" if you can buy a board that's great for surface tricks AND blasting 1080s? I don't think the One is made for higher level riders than the Harley. I think it's just a case of different boards for different riding styles. _________________ rally to the wake |
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FlyZone CR Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I hear ya! I feel I ride better on the Witness than on the Harley/S4/Watson. Looking at price the others are 'better' boards. Does that make me a worse rider than someone riding a Harley?! (Yes often I am, but you get the point ) _________________ FlyZone Wakeboarding Costa Rica |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 20, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I always got a kick out of seeing Steel Lafferty ride the LF trip. The Trip is pretty much the least aggressive board in LF's line. It's a continuous rocker "beginner board" FFS! That just goes to show that you don't need a pro model board to ride at a pro level.
Steel's riding the Witness now and still killing it. Yes, it's a pro model, but it's supposed to be a lot less aggressive than the Harley, the S4, the Shane, the Watson, etc. He did the toe back 9 that won trick of the year on that board, as well as a back 10! _________________ rally to the wake |
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da Liks Addict

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| FlyZone CR wrote: | I hear ya! I feel I ride better on the Witness than on the Harley/S4/Watson. Looking at price the others are 'better' boards. Does that make me a worse rider than someone riding a Harley?! (Yes often I am, but you get the point ) | i'm allll about the witness too. i tested the harley, didnt like it. felt slow and stiff! |
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| TheHebrewHammer wrote: | | GnarShredd wrote: | | Surface tricks simply aren't exactly something that pro riders or riders at a higher level are looking to do so the board is definitely not made for things like that. It's made for good performance wake to wake. |
I think it's ridiculous that some riders who use really aggressive boards think they're better than riders who use more forgiving boards. Like I said, the Harley has all the speed and pop of the One if not more. It's one of the most "high performance" boards money can buy, so I don't see how the One is better. What's the point of buying a board that's "not made for things like that" if you can buy a board that's great for surface tricks AND blasting 1080s? I don't think the One is made for higher level riders than the Harley. I think it's just a case of different boards for different riding styles. |
All I'm saying is that certain boards are built for certain things and that in the end, the One is focused on performing well wake to wake and was built to suit the needs of the pro who had his hand in designing it. He likely doesn't focus on surface tricks since yes, he does ride at a level higher than any of us here. Look at the boards from the 90's and the tricks that people were doing. These guys were blasing HUGE tricks on super primative boards. Owning a certain board does not make you a better/worse rider, it just depends on what you want to do and in general, riders who are focusing on surface tricks are at the beginner stages of riding. To put it simply, it's a board for a higher level of rider. |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| GnarShredd wrote: | | To put it simply, it's a board for a higher level of rider. |
Since when is Danny Harf, or anyone for that matter, a higher level of rider than Harley Clifford? _________________ rally to the wake |
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Enygma Soul Rider

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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| fotoshark wrote: | | TheHebrewHammer wrote: | | fotoshark wrote: | Believe it or not for a newbie I actually see the difference comfort on the water wise. The first time I went out I learned on a Ronix board WITHOUT fins. Then after that lesson I bought a hyperlite board from the store I learned at WITH fins took it out a few times this week so far and well ... Its easier to edge for a beginner, but when I tried to ride switch it def wasn't as easy to get to switch position as it was with the Ronix board and no fins lol  |
Absolutely, man. I remember my first time riding with no fins: SCARY! I think beginners really need some fin guidance to keep everything pointed in the right direction. It's just that once you get more comfortable, that guidance becomes a hinderance. |
You know whats funny? I think I kinda did better out there without the fins lmao Because yesterdays ride on my board with the fins did not go so smoothly when I tried to flip over to ride toe side lmao Ate wake for lack of better words... lol Now I dunno if it was technique or the hinderance hahaha
BUT if you look at it in a certain sense learning without the fins might actually make you a better rider if you can do it and dont keep falling. Maybe I'll take 'em off tomorrow before I go out again ...... lol
- T. | I think you're getting the wrong idea here. The ronix 1 comes with absolutely nothing on the bottom of the board. when people say then have a fin on them they mean the have 4 fins on the 4 corners of the board. There isn't even a spot for a center fin on the One.
While I'm guessing that you're simply talking about the center fins on a board. Where most boards have molded in fins on the sides and and extra path or 2 for the water to go through that makes extra traction. |
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Jul 22, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| TheHebrewHammer, Did you even read my post? |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 22, 2011 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| GnarShredd wrote: | | TheHebrewHammer, Did you even read my post? |
Yes, sir. I quoted it as well. _________________ rally to the wake |
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Jul 22, 2011 6:17 am Post subject: |
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So can you point out at which point I said Harf was better than Harley? How does that come out of what I said at all?
If you misunderstood then maybe I should reword somehow but basically I meant that a board doesn't make the rider, but you're still not going to want to put a complete beginner on a board like the One (they can get away with it, but it's no ideal). That's why it's considered to be for a more advanced riding style. |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 22, 2011 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| GnarShredd wrote: | | So can you point out at which point I said Harf was better than Harley? How does that come out of what I said at all? |
You said that the One was made for a higher level of rider than the Harley. The One is made for Danny Harf. The Harley is made for Harley Clifford. Danny isn't a higher level rider than Harley.
| GnarShredd wrote: | | I meant that a board doesn't make the rider, but you're still not going to want to put a complete beginner on a board like the One (they can get away with it, but it's no ideal). That's why it's considered to be for a more advanced riding style. |
Here you're saying that the Harley is more beginner friendly than the One. I totally agree. _________________ rally to the wake |
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GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Jul 22, 2011 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| TheHebrewHammer wrote: | | GnarShredd wrote: | | So can you point out at which point I said Harf was better than Harley? How does that come out of what I said at all? |
You said that the One was made for a higher level of rider than the Harley. The One is made for Danny Harf. The Harley is made for Harley Clifford. Danny isn't a higher level rider than Harley.
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Ah! That's the confusion. I knew something wasn't clicking. I wasn't referencing the pros at all, just talking about the everyday, non-pro rider like us. |
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TheHebrewHammer Addict

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Posted: Jul 22, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| GnarShredd wrote: | | Ah! That's the confusion. I knew something wasn't clicking. I wasn't referencing the pros at all, just talking about the everyday, non-pro rider like us. |
Word, ya, I missed that. _________________ rally to the wake |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

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Danny designed his to be baseless and have it how it is. Harley the same for his board. This is why we test boards from boardshops
Or you give me a shout for a Humanoid at a good price!  |
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fotoshark Newbie


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| Enygma wrote: | | fotoshark wrote: | | TheHebrewHammer wrote: | | fotoshark wrote: | Believe it or not for a newbie I actually see the difference comfort on the water wise. The first time I went out I learned on a Ronix board WITHOUT fins. Then after that lesson I bought a hyperlite board from the store I learned at WITH fins took it out a few times this week so far and well ... Its easier to edge for a beginner, but when I tried to ride switch it def wasn't as easy to get to switch position as it was with the Ronix board and no fins lol  |
Absolutely, man. I remember my first time riding with no fins: SCARY! I think beginners really need some fin guidance to keep everything pointed in the right direction. It's just that once you get more comfortable, that guidance becomes a hinderance. |
You know whats funny? I think I kinda did better out there without the fins lmao Because yesterdays ride on my board with the fins did not go so smoothly when I tried to flip over to ride toe side lmao Ate wake for lack of better words... lol Now I dunno if it was technique or the hinderance hahaha
BUT if you look at it in a certain sense learning without the fins might actually make you a better rider if you can do it and dont keep falling. Maybe I'll take 'em off tomorrow before I go out again ...... lol
- T. | I think you're getting the wrong idea here. The ronix 1 comes with absolutely nothing on the bottom of the board. when people say then have a fin on them they mean the have 4 fins on the 4 corners of the board. There isn't even a spot for a center fin on the One.
While I'm guessing that you're simply talking about the center fins on a board. Where most boards have molded in fins on the sides and and extra path or 2 for the water to go through that makes extra traction. |
Nope I was solely talkin bout the middle removable fins. The ones you can truly feel when they're there and when you take 'em off
- T. |
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cubbies017 Outlaw

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| I haven't ridden a Ronix, but I have heard they are pretty tight and hard to ride. |
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marmonick Newbie

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I ride my Ronix finless. _________________ Fighting for peace is like having sex for virginity! |
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OperationROL Criminal


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| You guys are killing me. If you bought a Street car and wanted make it suitable for drag racing, you would outfit it with the necessary items to get it to perform. It does not come from the manufacturer with your needs in mind. So, now you have a Ronix ONE and you want to do surface tricks. Do like I did. Order some Ronix 0.8 or Hyperlite 0.8 fins and forget about it. When I first tried a switch on my 2010 One, I experienced the hardest faceplant ever. I can still feel it. So I ordered the .8s and now everything is fine. The fiberglass fins that come with the board are hard to release. It is not the board. It is the fins. |
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