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3MileBayWaker Soul Rider

Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 256 City: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Apr 04, 2011 12:54 am Post subject: Binding placement, just curious at everyones stance. |
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When I first got my board, I had no idea where to place the bindings and at what degree. So I picked dead center on the holes and went duck foot at 15 degrees on both bindings, so riding switch wouldn't effect anything. My stance feels pretty comfortable but I am thinking maybe coming down to 12 degrees.
Now this is completely opposite of my snow board. I ride regular but have my lead foot at 15 degrees and trailing foot at 9 degrees. I also ride slightly tail heavy by 1 hole off center.
So just curious what others have their bindings dialed into placement wise. I'm also 6'3" and 200lbs, size 13 ( XXL) binding
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DeloBoarder Outlaw

Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 131 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Apr 04, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: |
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I ride at 12 degrees both feet and I think one hole set wider than center on each side. This pretty much mimics what my snowboard setting is as well |
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colefooter Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 3925 City: Fairborn, OH.
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Posted: Apr 04, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I am 5' 10" and ride a 140 cm wakeboard right now. I am an advanced rider as well. I ride as wide of a stance as possible, as far ducked out as possible on pretty much any board I ride. So with you being that tall, I would definitely at least put the boots on as wide of a stance as possible and give it a try.
I have found that for poking out grabs and really anything that involves bending the knees a bunch to get closer to the board, having a very wide stance/ducked out seems to help. |
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Enygma Soul Rider

Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 356
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Posted: Apr 05, 2011 2:10 am Post subject: |
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colefooter wrote: | I am 5' 10" and ride a 140 cm wakeboard right now. I am an advanced rider as well. I ride as wide of a stance as possible, as far ducked out as possible on pretty much any board I ride. So with you being that tall, I would definitely at least put the boots on as wide of a stance as possible and give it a try.
I have found that for poking out grabs and really anything that involves bending the knees a bunch to get closer to the board, having a very wide stance/ducked out seems to help. | That's also a 1 way ticket to screwing up your knees...
As it's been said a number of times on this site. either jump high up in the air or jump off a chair. Try to mimic the position your feet land in on the board.
Putting the boots way out and ducking them too far out is just asking to blow your knee out on a bad land... or worse. |
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colefooter Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 3925 City: Fairborn, OH.
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Posted: Apr 06, 2011 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Enygma wrote: | colefooter wrote: | I am 5' 10" and ride a 140 cm wakeboard right now. I am an advanced rider as well. I ride as wide of a stance as possible, as far ducked out as possible on pretty much any board I ride. So with you being that tall, I would definitely at least put the boots on as wide of a stance as possible and give it a try.
I have found that for poking out grabs and really anything that involves bending the knees a bunch to get closer to the board, having a very wide stance/ducked out seems to help. | That's also a 1 way ticket to screwing up your knees...
As it's been said a number of times on this site. either jump high up in the air or jump off a chair. Try to mimic the position your feet land in on the board.
Putting the boots way out and ducking them too far out is just asking to blow your knee out on a bad land... or worse. |
I would argue against you on this any day honestly. When I squat standing on the ground all the way down to where my butt literally almost touches the ground, it is essentially the very wide/ducked out position. Do this with your feet not ducked out, and this is a one-way ticket to killing your knees. Obviously it changes from person to person and it is personal preference. But I have been riding for over 15 years and I have never had a knee injury (or any serious injury for that matter) while throwing mobes and advanced tricks.
Not saying ALL the way ducked is always good, but for someone who is over 6 foot I would try ducking them pretty far and see if its comfortable. |
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JeffreyCH Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 2205 City: Lincoln
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Posted: Apr 06, 2011 9:29 am Post subject: |
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I ride with 15/-15 a little more then shoulder width. I tried running with my bindings out as far as they would go, wasn't terrible, but after long sets it made my hips hurt. _________________
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DeloBoarder Outlaw

Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 131 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Apr 06, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: |
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seems like if your natural landing stance isn't all the way out, then it would be kind of awkward landing with your feet that wide. I cannot, however, speak from experience because I don't ride with my bindings all the way out. Somebody should pitch the wedgie footbed idea that Ride Snowboards has been pushing really hard this last season to wake companies. Having that extra 2.5 to 3 degrees of footbed tilt might really appeal to people who prefer a really wide stance but aren't 8 feet tall or make a wider stance accessible to those with bad knees/hips/etc....just a thought  |
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Apr 06, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Putting the boots way out and ducking them too far out is just asking to blow your knee out on a bad land... or worse. |
You have it backwards actually.
Your knees have the most strength when force is applied directly in line with the bend in the knee. That means when you squat down, your knees should roughly end right over your toes, not left or right. So if you ride a wide stance, you want your bindings more ducked out. If you ride a narrow stance, you want them straighter.
This is illustrated by using a crazy wide stance but having your feet completely straight. When you bend down your knees have to twist to accommodate, this is where they have less strength. _________________ You have just entered the twilight zone. |
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ILoveButter Newbie

Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 5 City: Austin
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Posted: Apr 21, 2011 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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I used to ride with my bindings around shoulder width and it felt fine, but last season I tried my bindings spaced out as far as they would go. (~12 deg ducked for both) It felt really weird at first, but I think it gave me a better board control once I got used to it. Try a couple different settings and go with what works best! |
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Benji Mac Newbie


Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 34 City: Okinawa, Japan
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Posted: Apr 21, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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JeffreyCH wrote: | I ride with 15/-15 a little more then shoulder width. I tried running with my bindings out as far as they would go, wasn't terrible, but after long sets it made my hips hurt. |
I was going to ask this on my other thread about my binding placement but JefferyCHs post sort of touches on the question. You guys say you ride at 9, 12, 15 degrees ducked out or whatnot - on my LF Transit bindings there are degree markers on the inside and outside. I set them to 12 on the outside of each and then did the jump off the roof trick to see how my feet land and just tightend them down from there. Not really worrying about the inside degree marker, just that they were both the same. So, does the inside need to be the negative of the other number, does it matter, or is it again just what feels comfortable? this is my first board ever so have mercy. |
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Benji Mac Newbie


Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 34 City: Okinawa, Japan
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Posted: Apr 21, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry 3MileBayWaker, wasn't trying to threadjack... perhaps this will help you as well. |
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HHI Dave Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 2550 City: Hilton Head Island, SC
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Posted: May 02, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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6'3" here.
No matter what board I ride (Currently Lyman 143) I always move the bindings out to the farthest holes. My feet are ducked out symetrically, but I'm not sure of the angle in degrees. Its always just a matter of trial and error til I find my "sweet spot". Then I just make sure they're both the same. To me, a wakeboard should feel exactly the same whether riding regular or switch. The bindings should mirror each other. This is my preference. Yours may be different. _________________ Hilton Head Wake Sports.com
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Chocoholic Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 363 City: Dubai
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Posted: May 06, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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My stance is as wide as I can get it, plus my bindings are ducked out quite a way - used to be 12/12 but my knees kept coming inwards, so dcking them out more has stopped this - plus it's a knee saver. _________________ Suck it up and get hardcore! |
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Obsessed Criminal

Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 74 City: Bahrain
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Posted: May 06, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think what works for one person will necessarily work for another, even if theyre the same height.
Learnwake has a great video explaining binding placement. I never saw it that way until i watched it, being 6' I always had my bindings as wide as possible, and ducked at 18 degrees each. After watching Ive reduced it to 15 but still as wide apart. I wouldn't be able to explain fully whats in the video, but essentially it seems the wider your feet are apart, the less they need to be ducked out, but most importantly when youre standing in your bindings you should have free and quite wide movement with your knees and be able to point your knees in both directions and bend at the knee, this is so that when you land you can bend at the knee and absorb the landing, if youre ducked out too far, or too wide you will not be able to bend at the knee as well. thats probably very confusing but the video shows it well. |
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craZywakeboardererer Criminal

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3MileBayWaker Soul Rider

Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 256 City: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: May 22, 2011 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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I was out yesterday and the water temps were only in the low 60's and with no wet suit they were very short runs. I finally removed the secondary fins from my board and the board felt soo squirrely. Most of the time the water conditions are semi rough where I board due to boat traffic and the large bodies of water. There is no where in NYS where you can ride down a river where its glass on windy days, everything is NO WAKE zone or 10mph. Home owners on the rivers have a thorne up their ass, cause even yesterday I passed a guys house who had a huge banner on his dock, then come running out with a megaphone yelling at me to slow down because my boat at 5-8mph throws a small wake.
I am going to try and push my bindings all the way out to the farthest holes and add another 5 degrees and see if this helps with making the board feel more predictable and like my snowboard. Maybe my stance is actually too narrow using the middle holes since I am considered quite tall at 6'3". No one every taught me how to wakeboard or what was right. Which is why I appreciate this forum being able to read up on things.
Thanks for the link to that article. _________________ 2010 Glastron GT 205XL ( Volvo 4.3L GL-J)
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