Getting ripped out of my bindings - *added video*

Benji Mac · Newbie Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 34 City: Okinawa, Japan

Is it normal for you to come out of your bindings when you eat it hard? I'd say i land my w2w 60% of the time right now, but the other 40%, I eat it bad, and if i catch my front edge wrong, i come out of my bindings hard with both feet. Granted i'd rather them come off than my feet get detached at the ankles, just wondering if that is normal for newbs to expirience. I've got 2010 LF Transit bindings, 8-10 and they fit me very good. It has the dual sinch laces and i keep them tight on the foot and ankle sections.

Thanks

***** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xoxQSsNX7c *****

TheHebrewHammer · Addict Joined: 03 Dec 2010 Posts: 526

It's not a good thing to come out of your bindings because if you come out partially and your ankle gets caught in the upper part of the binding, it could lead to a sprain, break, or other injury. Coming out of my bindings was one of my biggest fears when I had my shitty beginner board because I have weak ankles. It's important that you get a supportive, well-made binding that fits you properly and will keep your foot from slipping out.

Wakeboarder3780 · Posted: Apr 24, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject:

Benji Mac · Newbie Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 34 City: Okinawa, Japan

haha thanks Wakeboarder3780, i had my first ride of the season yesterday and am getting the vids together for you guys. last year was my first time ever wakeboarding and got about 6 sessions in, so i still get quite a bit of good wipeouts.

Obsessed · Criminal Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 74 City: Bahrain

Hey Benji,
I have the same bindings and its quite rare that I come out of them, but it does happen. I really have to catch the full edge for it to happen.
I do fall a lot, but I guess because of that, Ive learned how to fall better, and usually just fall backwards, or atleast know when im going to fall so I let go of the handle at the right time so it doesnt slam me down.

Jkaye1 · Newbie Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 7 City: Phoenix

I'm sure what happened to me was a freak accident but I came down from a raley wrong and instead of my foot coming out since I tightened my bindings pretty tight..my foot snapped inside the binding..I broke 3 bones and now have pins in my foot for another few weeks. I would have rather come out of the binding haha

DeloBoarder · Outlaw Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 131 City: Knoxville

I have to agree that it's not a negative thing to come out of the bindings. In my experience you will slip out of open toe bindings much more easily than closed toe bindings even with a good fit. It also has a lot to do with your lace/velcro system and how the bindings tighten down over your foot.

JeffreyCH · Posted: Apr 25, 2011 6:19 am Post subject:

I actually prefer to stay in my bindings. Only been ejected once, and it was a hard crash, split the nose of my board all the way down the fin. The main thing I fear is having one foot come out, and the leverage of the board tearing my knee to shreds.

Benji Mac · Newbie Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 34 City: Okinawa, Japan

This is for Wakeboarder3780. This is mostly my wipeouts... turns out it was most of my runs as well. After watching this i realized i wasn't letting the boat bring me back to the wake, nor was i going out very wide before i came back in. Heading out again on sunday to work on those things, any other advice is more than welcome.

Enjoy... also the goofy rider is a friend of mine, his second wipeout was worth adding as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xoxQSsNX7c

HHI Dave · Posted: May 02, 2011 3:35 pm Post subject:

Benji Mac · Newbie Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 34 City: Okinawa, Japan

yea TS is killing me. Last year when i learned, my TS naturally turned in the air, so i went with and just tried 180s, but shortcuts will only hurt me hence the horrible TS jumps in the above video. Ill try to get video again on sunday and see how it goes. Thanks for the input.

Maddog10 · Criminal Joined: 27 May 2010 Posts: 52

Another thing that helped me a lot was making sure I kept the handle close to my leading hip. I noticed in your vid that several times you let the handle get too far out in front of you and it causes you to lose balance or get pulled over the front. Make sure you keep that handle close to your lead hip and I think you will see your consistency increase dramatically.

Benji Mac · Newbie Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 34 City: Okinawa, Japan

sweet, thanks. Should i have the handle at my lead hip during the whole progressive edge, or pull it end when i get close to the wake to help load the line?

Wakeboarder3780 · Posted: May 02, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject:

Firstly, that is the most gorgeous water I've ever seen. You are very lucky to be able to ride something that gorgeous. That aside you've got some good advice here.

I would work on your edging and wake to wake jumps. You or others have already pointed out most of what you're missing. I also noticed that on most jumps you aren't "standing tall".

What I do notice is that you have a "hop-like" style of jump where as soon as you leave the wake you bring your knees up to grab it or get it underneath you. When you release from the wake you should look like you're standing straight up. I would suggest trying to focus on looking like a pencil for at least a second while in the air, before you do anything else.

All in all I'd say just work into your w2w, try having good technique but don't start out super far and only plan on going half the wake width. Progress it up from there. Keep on riding baby!

Benji Mac · Newbie Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 34 City: Okinawa, Japan

Wakeboarder3780, yes the water here is great, and its pretty ride-able all year with a light suit or top.

some really good advice guys i really appreciate it. each of the issues i was getting frustrated with: getting pulled off balance, not getting high, ect were answered.

I will be back out again on sunday, if the fiance comes with ill have video again and post it up.

FlatH20 · Outlaw Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 167

ditto with some of the advice - keep that rope at your hip stand tall and keep your shoulders square.. work on the progressivve edge and the pop off the wake. it also looks like when you get out of position you are getting prepared for the wipeout - which further degrades your position/stance it's totally natural. faceplant avoidance....

on coming out of the boots - my old bindings I had several occaisions to eject - not a pretty sight nor feeling.. I would actually prefer to stay locked in - with my new boots I have yet to come out despite some hard spills...

love that water - thanks for the vids - at least I know I'm not the only one taking some fantastic wipeouts Razz

pet575 · Posted: May 05, 2011 7:36 am Post subject:

Freakin' beautiful water!

Only one thing to add to what these guys are telling you.... You need to edge a LOT harder as you approach the wake. You can stand tall and put the rope on your lead hip and all that other stuff all you want, but none if it will matter without a good progressive edge.

Are you using your edge to get to the wake? Yes, but barely and it is not progressive. You should be starting out by edging in just like you are when you first start to approach the wake. By the time you hit the top of the wake, you should be edging so hard that the people in the boat can see the bottom side of your board. They should be able to see the graphics on the bottom of your board very clearly.

Compare how hard you feel like you are digging your edge into the water to what your video looks like. You can't see the bottom of your board at all. Next time you ride, work on edging TWICE as hard as you are right now. Then watch the video and you'll see how much of the bottom of the board you can see on the video. It will still probably not be very much and it will teach you that you need to edge twice as hard as you were the last time out (that is 4X as had as you originally for those counting).

This was very difficult for me to understand for awhile until I saw myself on video. I thought I was edging really hard but the video showed me that the bottom of my board was not visible at all. After watching video and edging harder and harder, I finally got it because I started to simply think of it as "show the bottom of your board to the boat" when I started to approach the wake. Unbelievable difference in pop the first time you actually do it.

Keep it simple. Show the bottom of your board to the people in the boat. You'll get it.

twolfcorner2009 · Guest

On a couple of the wipeouts it looked like you were diggin your nose in and that was causing your board to stop planing on the water and start divin. Keep your weight back and work on that progressive edge and the other fundamentals and you'll be fine!