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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: System 2.0 in Orlando, kind of weak.... Reply with quote

Maybe I'm missing something, but I finally had a chance to check out the 2.0 setup at OWC today. This thing was super hyped, and to me looked like the bunny slope of cable. It's a straight shot with a kicker in the middle, and few people can flick a raley at the end. What's cool about that ? And even worse you have to sign in if you can get the operators attention, and you are charged if you ride it or not as the rates went up bc of it. Not dissing 2.0, it's super cool at like the surf expo with rails, but this particular setup seems almost pointless at a park like OWC....
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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2011 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RightCoastRider26, I've never been a fan of a 2.0 in a cable park setting. One person at a time vs. 6 people or more at a time on a cable is the obvious advantage there. I will say though, that 2.0 is hella fun with a small group. Try and take a trip out to the Projects sometime and you'll see what I mean. They have an awesome little rail park and one of the 2.0's has a short line (at least when I went) to make it super easy to do huge air tricks for training.

Don't look at it as a replacement for cable so much as a new innovation for the sport, like winches. They definitely have their place at camps, small parks, and for events and if used right I can see them helping the sport to blow up HUGE by getting spectators close to the riders in comps like Red Bull Wakelab.
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PostPosted: Mar 24, 2011 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I would NEVER expect OWC to do something like that right, don't judge it by your experience with them.
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2011 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you realize it's an air trick trainer, right?
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2011 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I didn't. But that makes more sense. They coould tell customers that, would help. Have you used it? Is the flick on it the same as the small lake ? Looks like a totally different approach to an air trick...
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is super weak, and it's not just an air trick trainer. Maybe that is what a few wakeboarders there decided to call it, but that is definitely not its purpose. I think odub has the same idea though, and that's why it is the way it is.

The kicker is lame, but then again so is every obstacle at odub. IMHO a 2.0 operator needs some experience in the sport in order to be good at operating it(same thing with a winch). When I went over there the driver was pretty bad and couldn't even successfully turn me around without dropping me in the water..
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PostPosted: Mar 28, 2011 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frye, The driver and rider need to be in sync. when I ride it, I have no problem making it around the turn. System 2's can be used for obstacles as well as air tricks, but OWC's is set up as more of a air trick cable. It's the highest system 2 in the world right now, and there's not enough room where it's at to put a long line on it, so you basically get a super high tower + short line = automatic air tricks.

you should spend some more time on the obstacles at OWC. yeah, they're challenging, but they are far from being lame. Would you rather go slam into the wall of a kicker down at McCormicks or do 1080's down their 4 foot wide rooftop? Comparatively, I'd rather be at OWC all day than any of the other cables in FL.

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PostPosted: Mar 28, 2011 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LakeIolaLuke wrote:
It's the highest system 2 in the world right now, and there's not enough room where it's at to put a long line on it,


now that I did not know. I might have to make a trip out there, sounds like a lot of fun.
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PostPosted: Mar 31, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: System 2.0 in Orlando, kind of weak.... Reply with quote

RightCoastRider26 wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something, but I finally had a chance to check out the 2.0 setup at OWC today. This thing was super hyped, and to me looked like the bunny slope of cable. It's a straight shot with a kicker in the middle, and few people can flick a raley at the end. What's cool about that ? And even worse you have to sign in if you can get the operators attention, and you are charged if you ride it or not as the rates went up bc of it. Not dissing 2.0, it's super cool at like the surf expo with rails, but this particular setup seems almost pointless at a park like OWC....


I love the thing. Its like having a no gravity cheat code for wakeboarding. I did a raley on my first try and an S-bend within 3 tries (and I've never done a raley on boat or cable till I tried the 2.0). And you can usually hold on to the rope, fall on a toe edge and feel perfectly fine.

Try going with someone thats good with air tricks and you'll learn a lot in a 2.0 set. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Apr 03, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LakeIolaLuke wrote:
frye, The driver and rider need to be in sync. when I ride it, I have no problem making it around the turn. System 2's can be used for obstacles as well as air tricks, but OWC's is set up as more of a air trick cable. It's the highest system 2 in the world right now, and there's not enough room where it's at to put a long line on it, so you basically get a super high tower + short line = automatic air tricks.

you should spend some more time on the obstacles at OWC. yeah, they're challenging, but they are far from being lame. Would you rather go slam into the wall of a kicker down at McCormicks or do 1080's down their 4 foot wide rooftop? Comparatively, I'd rather be at OWC all day than any of the other cables in FL.


I don't have problems turning around. The problem is when the operator is not paying attention and waits too long in to your edge to start reversing the carrier. I have enough experience on sesitecs to know this is not my fault, but operator negligence.

I wakeskate and used the longer rope. Still was unhappy, and since I wakeskate I am not really in to "automatic air tricks". If it can only be used for air tricks like you are saying, why are we all required to pay for it? Wakeskaters? Slalom skiers? The first timer that is still working on getting up on the big cable? Most importantly, why is there a kicker?

Comparatively speaking I prefer McCormicks obstacles. I have not been to McCormicks in over six months, but I know it started out as very rider oriented. I guess I should give OWC credit for "trying" by using the Projects old stuff.

P.S. I know this is a wakeboarding site so none of my points mean a whole lot to you guys.
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PostPosted: Apr 03, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a little harsh on OWC. I love the place, have a season pass, and am there almost everyday. My original gripe was with the 2.0.
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2011 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i somehwat agree, if you are gonna set up a sesitec, set it up with some legit hits eh?
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PostPosted: Apr 26, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why are we all required to pay for it?


Fully Agree! First time I was there after they set it up and they charged me more, I said what gives? She said it was for the 2.0, I said I didn't want to ride that thing. There should be a sign up when you pay, and it should only be more if you want to ride, and give a different color wrist band or something. It's difficult to sign up even if you want to ride with only one operator up in a tower... I wish they would change this.
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